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Al Punto con Jorge Ramos - 20 de diciembre, 2020

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>> lets get to the point. there were over 300,000 peoplewho have died from covid. this week, these firstvaccinations against the coronavirus were given.he will speak with a doctor who received the vaccination.will you get the vaccine or talk to -- we talked to one personuber dissipated in the moderna test -- who participated in themoderna test. he is now part of the newcabinet. --tell us how to make a hit that lasts half of a century.we begin now. ♪>> lets get to the point. al punto with jorge ramos.♪ >> at the getting of this week,-- in addition to the pfizervaccine, another vaccine by moderna was authorized, whichmeans millions of people will be inoculated at a moment when over300,000 people have died with of the first people to receive the vaccine last mondaywas dr. paula eckardt. thank you for being with us.>> thank you very much, it is a pleasure.>> what arm did you get the vaccine in, and how do you feel?>> in my left arm, because i use it less.i got it on monday. i feel good.the truth is, i have not felt differently.i cant say i have felt bad. >> why were you chosen?>> i am they had of infectious diseases at memorial hospitaland since march, -- i am the head of infectious diseases atmemorial hospital and i was one of the first to see the firstpatient arrive at the hospital, so i was always involved.the important thing for me was to give an example, especiallybeing a latino woman, it is important i be among the firstto get the vaccine. >> it is interesting you aretalking about setting an example, because according to asurvey, 22% of latinos do not want the vaccine.>> what happens is there is a lot of disinformation on socialmedia, also culturally. also in my family, there are alot of people who are afraid. people read in different socialmedia. ethic it is important to see --i think it is important to see the latino community -- ratesare -- disproportionately high for latinos, and we tend to havesevere complications. -- it is one of the mosteffective communities. we need to not be so afraid.we can avoid death in our community by getting thevaccine. >> would you please let me knowhow the vaccine works? does that mean the virus cannotaffect you? does that mean you do get thevirus and your body reacts differently?how does that work? >> in the trial that pfizer did,that included over 40,000 people, and there was anappropriate percentage of latinos.what it does is we form antibodies against a specificparticulate in the virus. what was shown is that 95% ofpatients who were inoculated with the vaccine do not developan illness serious enough to require hospitalization.what we dont know right now is if -- and this might happen withthe influenza vaccine as well, that we might still beinfective, -- infected, but we will have a less serious illnessand the other question would be, if we have the disease, if wecould still be contagious or not.definitely, it did protect people from having an illnessthat would take them to the hospital, and that is what weneed right now, because we are seeing many people hospitalized.>> that is to say you were vaccinated, but we dont know ifyou might still be contagious. >> we believe that is not thecase. that if i were to be infected, iwould have a disease that would be i would not have viral loadto be contagious. but to answer your question, westill do not have at this moment.>> with his massive -- with this massive vaccination, do youbelieve the number of hospitalizations and the numberof deaths in the united states will diminish, or do we need tocontinue to protect ourselves? >> it will not dropautomatically. we need to continue using masks,we need to continue practicing social distancing.but as people develop immunity and more of us are vaccinated,we will reach a point that we want to get is a process that will not be fast, but we have a light at theend of everything we have excipients.>> dr. paula exckardt, thank you for talking with us.mike pence was vaccinated on friday.donald trump will not be vaccinated until the medicalteam recommends -- donald trump was diagnosed with covid-19 atthe beginning of october. president-elect joe biden sayshe will be vaccinated this week, and former presidents george w.bush and barack obama will also be vaccinated and your family will be able to get a vaccine if you want itbut before that, we know you have a lot of questions.we asked a public health specialist and a professor atthe university to answer your questions.before we get to the questions, i would like to ask, do you knowif you got the vaccine or the placebo from the modernacompany? >> it is a pleasure to be here.we see the letter and it will tell us in the next couple ofweeks, letting us know if we received a placebo, and we willget a vaccine, or if we do not need the vaccine anymore.>> if you got the placebo, you may get the actual vaccine?>> yes, that is what the volunteers were told.>> i am a worker without health can i get the covid vaccine? >> if he doesnt have healthinsurance, can he get the vaccine?>> what they havent said yet is that the vaccine is notrestricted to anybody. it is in the natural -- it is inthe national interest that we all get vaccines.i would tell him to go to the closest vaccination center to doit. >> will it also be free?>> yes. the federal government has saidthe covid-19 vaccine in the united states will be free.>> the second question is from patricia.>> i am a street lander. when can i get my vaccine?i own my own business and do not have health insurance.>> where can people without health insurance go?perhaps with another doctor or a pharmacy?what did they do? >> -- what do they do?>> for this vaccination plan, they are going to start makingcalls out. they dont have enough vaccinesyet, and the few we do have ours -- are going to specific groups.for instance, health care professionals and professionalsin the health care system, and older people in assisted livingfacilities and nursing homes. we also need to be aware, whenpeople say that people with certain risk factors like highblood pressure, obesity, it is their turn, that is when theywill start announcing where these vaccinations will takeplace. what i would tell the lady is toplease pay attention to see where she will have to go.>> the next question comes from juan.who is eligible? who can have an allergicreaction? how might we know how manystudies or how can i know if the vaccine is going to affect meand my organisms? >> the question is veryappropriate. two people who received thepfizer vaccine got major allergic do we know that we wont experience that type ofreaction? >> that is a good question.there is no way to know if you will have that kind of reactionor not. the cdc said last week when theyapproved the vaccine that people who have had an allergy to aninjection to speak with their doctor because it is likely thatthere arent -- there are certain chemicals in the liquidthat are causing these allergic reactions.i would say that we are all candidates, but the cdc isdetermining that we are starting first with people working in thehealth care system, then older people in nursing homes andassisted living facilities, because they only have 6% of thecases but 40% of the deaths. ultimately, we will all bevaccinated at the right moment. >> olivia is also a worker, andshe has the next question. >> what worries me about thevaccine is that it may not be effective and may cause moreharm. >> how do we know if the vaccineis effective, if what we are getting will protect us?>> that is an excellent question.for that, we have the phase 1, 2 and three clinical trials.these phase three clinical trials with pfizer and modernahave been analyzed by independent scientists.they are a group that consults with the fda.these independent scientists say it is 95% or more, for pfizerand 94% or more for the dharna -- for moderna.i ask people to please trust what these scientists are doing.these vaccines were designed with the scientific method andthe reason they have come out so soon is not because they cutcorners but because much of the preclinical phase had alreadybeen done when they worked against sars and mers.the other thing, the three phases have already happened, sowe have to believe in these vaccines.>> the next question is from mario.>> one of the questions that our community has is what is in thevaccine? there is a lot of information insocial media. some people think that thevaccine has the same virus that is battling against -- that itis battling against. >> that is a good question.on social media, there are a lot of conspiracy theories that arefalse and information that is completely what is in the vaccine? >> these new approved vaccinesare innovative because they have the genetic code, little bits ofthe code of the virus, that the virus uses to develop antennae.when you get the vaccine, your body gets those things, and itproduces antibodies. another kind of vaccine usesantigens. others use the entire virus.others use a cold vaccine that have received portions of thisvaccine to provoke a defense response.none of these four platforms inject the complete virus.dont believe people who say you are going to get the virus andbecome sick. that is not going to happen.on the other hand, there are people saying with this vaccineparticularly, it will affect your genome and you will bemutant humans and be a type of walking chimp.>> and if they are going to implement -- implant microchips.>> these are like an egg with a yoke and a white.there is no way these vaccines can change our genome.>> thank you as always. >> thank you.>> to continue with this topic, for now you cant get a specificdate of when you will be vaccinated, but univision.comhas a reference to how the vaccine might be distributed inthe area where you live. open your cell phone camera anduse this code. select the state where you live.lets use california. also choose the county.lets say los angeles county. the third step is to select thegroup you belong to. essential workers would bevaccinated during phase two. it is estimated that there areover 400,000 essential workers in los angeles, and before then,1.5 million people would have received the vaccine.there are four phases and we are barely in the first one.go to to see when you could get thevaccine. next, we will talk to a doctoraristoteles sandoval. >> all latino people in congressare part of the hispanic caucus. he has been in congress since2012. he is part of the new latinopower, congressman and dr. raul ruiz is with us.thank you for being with us. >> it is a pleasure.>> i would like to ask you about your new post in congress, butlets talk about california, your state.what went wrong? >> the same reason things arebad everywhere in the country. there are many people who gottogether on thanksgiving, and they are still getting togetherduring these holidays. >> what needs to be done?do you think that the vaccine is enough, or do you estimate therewill be another two or three months but will be difficult inthe country? >> we will have another two orthree months that will be very difficult.we know the vaccine wont have an effect until a month, maybesix weeks after the vaccine is administered, because it needstwo doses. it is also a process that willtake place in phases. most people will not be able toget the vaccine for another month or two.>> you are one of the few members of congress who is apolitician and a doctor. when will you get vaccinated?>> i will get vaccinated during phase three, because i donthave chronic illness. but people, especially latinoswho are at high risk, who are not in nursing homes, forexample or who are not doctors, people with diabetes, asthma,people who work in high-risk jobs which is a majority oflatinos, they will be dave -- they will be able to obtain avaccine during phase two. >> im going to set aside thepandemic topic and talk about politics.donald trump is leaving. what will his legacy be?>> donald trumps fame will come from the mistake and the crimesagainst humanity he has committee -- committed, not justchildren on the border, but attacking democracy, and takingus to the breaking point, challenging our trust ingovernment. >> what does joe biden need todo, to restore faith among those who did not vote for him?>> he needs to extend a hand, and show people how presidentdonald trump damaged our country and our democracy.we also need to do something about the media, because thereis a cycle, where they are only listening to one point of view,news from an extreme minority in our country.we need to put out more information based on truth, notlies. we need to be transparent, sopeople can see what we need to do is protect our democracy.we need to promote movements to benefit the people, not just therich and powerful like president trump.>> you have just been named president of the hispaniccaucus. congratulations on that post.what is your primary challenge? your voice will be heard morethan before. >> the first thing we need to dois save lives, and as a doctor and as a public healthprofessional, we need to bring the necessary resources to thelatino community to save lives, to give treatment, to gettesting, to have access to quarantine, to help thecommunity. not just with the vaccine, butalso to promote education and have more access to the internetand money for our families and small business owners.we also need to begin changing the laws, changing the executiveorders that president trump enacted.we will work very hard with president-elect biden to undosome of those damaging executive orders.>> dr. and congressman raul ruiz , thank you for being with us.>> a police state cannot rule with brute force.they will not confiscate journalism, will not stop the free press from informing people.and showing you what you are to the nicaraguans and the world.>> these are words from nicaraguan journalist, carlosfernando chamorro. authorities stopped a protest hewas holding two years ago. his newspaper, confidencial canbe found online. carlos tells us he will not besilenced. it is good to see say that in nicaragua is saying a lot.>> thank you. >> what happened?we saw the video where security forces put you -- pushed youaway from the building, which was confiscated two years ago.>> we were expelled by force. we gave this press conferencefor about 15 minutes. that is the measure of freedomthat this dictatorship will tolerate.15 minutes of freedom of expression, of assembly.20 police officers arrived, and they pushed us away.>> you managed at confidencial in 2017, to prove extrajudicialkillings of over 300 people. is this what has bothered thegovernment of nicaragua? >> i think it is resistant fromthe -- resistance from the independent press, not to submitto brute force. censorship in television, whichwe have defeated on social media, and their campaigns ofintimidation and pressure. we were exiled, we returned andhere we are, doing journalism. >> you were in costa rica andnow you are back in nicaragua. are things worse now than theywere a year ago? >> there is a serious situationin the government, which is a tendency to normalize violence.and we represent, not just at confidencial but beingindependent press, we represent a resistance to not acceptingwhat is going on now. what we saw on monday is apolice state that does not allow freedom of expression orassembly. >> there are people who are alsoprotesting this, but it looks like you are taking theleadership role. journalists are leaders indemocracy. >> i would say we representleadership in the fight for truth.we cant make political change. we cant produce an electoralreform that would help democracy, but during thisstruggle, the first thing we need is to suspend the policestate. the liberation of politicalprisoners. the press is on the front line.>> you spoke during this interview that this is adictatorship. are you in danger?this will be seen all over the country and in nicaragua.>> we have no guarantees to the right of freedom or liberty orour lives, but that is not just me.that happens to all citizens. we are not being given ourfreedom, we are taking it back. >> in venezuela, people havebeen talking about the end of the dictatorship, first withhugo chavez and now with nicolas maduro.what is the way out with daniel ortega?>> we only get out by exerting more pressure, primarilynational pressure. i think the large businessowners in nicaragua need to apply more pressure.citizens have been doing that. we need to get to a negotiation,with or without ortega. there is no leadership.there arent big organizations. but the majority could winelection at any point. >> you and other journalists arefighting for freedom of expression.thanks to social media and the internet, you continue topublish. where can they read>> there are markets and markets.mariana van zeller has gone to the most dangerous ones in theworld. they even spoke with members ofa cartel in mexico. she works for nationalgeographic and has a new series called trafficked.she is with us from los angeles. thank you for being with us.>> thank you. >> in your series, you showtraffickers of all types, edison, arms, animals --medicine, arms, animals. what did you learn?>> i learned a lot. the informal market, the graymarket is more than half of the global market.we know very little about these markets, so that is why it isimportant for us to get in and have that unique access tomarkets. i have learned a lot.they often operate out in the open.they are very widespread. they are in large cities andsmall towns. you can find these black marketsin all of these places. >> something i found interestingis that when you have access to the cartels in mexico, they arevery dangerous, how were you able to speak with them?>> i think ego was a big part of it.the people who do it feel that they are the best ones doingthat. that they have the best peoplewho packed the drugs, smugglers, all of that.sometimes their own families dont know what they are doing,and we are giving them the opportunity to disguise theiridentity and get to talk to us. they can do all of that withimpunity. there is no downside in speakingwith national geographic. what is most important is thatthe way we reach them is say that what we are doing is not tojudge them, but with empathy. we want to truly listen to whythey are doing it, how they do it, to hear their stories.i think that is a big reason why we had that access.>> an important part of the series is when you go to limaand find people who make counterfeit money.are there good and bad traffickers?>> i say that most of the people we speak with, the reason theydo what they do is because of a lack of opportunities.of course, there are bad people, people who do it out of greedalone, but the motivation is a big reason i wanted to do learn their motivations. without knowing theirmotivations, without knowing why people enter these blackmarkets, we will never be able to do anything to combat theseblack markets. >> ever since i have known you,you have always been interested in drug have focused some of your reporting on fentanyl.what is fentanyl, and how is that smuggled?>> fentanyl is the most dangerous drug in the kills more people in the united states, and every day,there is more fentanyl all over the united states.for the series, we see how fentanyl comes to the unitedstates. we film from the moment theyprecursor chemicals, barrels of them are placed into the ocean,and we see how they are taken to a laboratory, how they producethe fentanyl. then we see a mule smuggling thedrugs. we saw the entire process fromthe beginning to the distribution here.>> it took you two years to make this did you work in the middle of a pandemic?how did your way of working change?>> we finished the first season at the end of march.we thought there would be a second season in july.what we saw, what we witnessed is that there has been anexplosion in black markets around the world because ofcovid. when there is an economicdownturn, when people are unable to find work.they often turn to the black markets.we think now more than ever, the opportunity, the most relevanttime is now for a series like trafficked.>> mariana,to>> it is difficult but it has been 50 years sincejosé feliciano first sang "feliz navidad."since then, it has been one of the most played and recordedsongs. that 19 word song is so popularthat josé feliciano has created a new version of the song, with30 friends, including lin-manuel miranda and others.we are joined now by feliciano and rudy perez -- by joséfeliciano and rudy perez. "feliz navidad" is 50 years old.josé, i wanted to begin with is a song that only has 19 words.16 in spanish and three -- and some are in english.what were you hoping to do? >> i didnt want any radiostation to reject this song, because it had lyrics in spanishand english. i think that we showed theamerican public how to speak spanish.>> rudy, you have worked with some of the best performers inthe world. what makes a song like this onebecome a hit? not just that, it is one of the10 most heard songs in the world.what makes a song a hit? >> a song, i think, needs toreach the hearts of people. this song has definitely reachedmany people,>> josé, we know the concert this sunday.what will it be like, and how has the pandemic affected you?>> thanks to god, the pandemic has not affected going to have a lot of energy, and i want the public,this sunday at 7:00, i want them to be with us, so that i thinkthis is going to be the best virtual concert, lets call itthat, because we have many songs in spanish, and i think it isgoing to go well. >> rudy, what is the challengein bringing together so many performance -- performers toparticipate in a concert? >> that was the hardest thing ofall. it was extremely difficult, themost difficult thing i have done in my get lin-manuel miranda, some did not have access to aprofessional studio. they had to record on their cellphones. then i got the audio.there is the delay from zoom. it was very chaotic, but we wereable to work on it in the studio, to make it sound likeeveryone was in a studio with josé.>> that is why it is zoom, zoom, zoom.[singing] >> it is great to listen to you,josé. in addition to this song, "feliznavidad," you wrote a song, "i am america."did you imagine that when you came to the united states, thatyou would have the success and renowned you have now?-- and renown you have now? >> i think everything ispossible in life. i never thought i would be afamous musician. i am happy.>> rudy, what do you think? what have you learned?>> in my case, i came from the poorest aber hoods in miami --neighborhoods in miami. like everyone, every youngperson, sometimes you get involved in things you shouldntbe doing. i did my part, but to be able toget ahead through music. it is a blessing, a tremendousblessing. i am very grateful, especiallyto this country that gave us the opportunity.>> let me finish with this. josé, i dont want to get intopublic -- and the politics, but after this terrible 2020, we aregoing to have a new president. what do you want to do in 2021that you did not do in 2020? >> i want to stay quiet.>> why? >> because i am not apolitician. i dont care about politics.and that is how i am. >> very about you, rudy? what did you want to do in 2020that you will do in 2021? >> i wanted to travel.i wanted to see friends. i had projects in europe i wasnot able to complete. i am welcoming 2021 with openarms, with love and a lot of hope.>> rudy perez, josé feliciano, thank you both for being here.merry christmas. >> thank you, is because -- >> i have done interviews withyou, and the memories i have of those interviews have alwaysbeen good. >> thank you, josé.thank you. that is 50 years of "feliznavidad," and this week was filled with news that willimpact our future. what better way to do it thanwith the music of scissor minas -- cesar munos?♪ ♪videos at we will see you next week, wenttogether, we will get to the point.merry christmas. ♪

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