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Let's go to the point we are talking about. He has destroyed a lot of families the first few weeks.
He arrested thousands of undocumented people. Between those who have been reported, there are more than 5000 who do not have a criminal record.
Today, we will talk with one of those families who has been deported by trump. This woman has been in the united states for almost two decades.
Her children are here. Thank you for being with us.
Let me start with you, guadalupe. On february 7, in your integrate -- immigration interview,.
You were detained and your life was changed do you blame trump for this? >> i think it's not right, all of the orders he has been giving.
>> how has your life changed since then? >> practically everything happened so fast.
He brought me away from my children and i felt very lonely. I left my husband and my kids.
>> you lived in the united states for 14 years. Do you recognize guanajuato?
>> i have been here for three months, living in my country, but i was in the u. S.
For 22 years. >> when they deported your mother, you said a phrase we have heard before, you said that nobody should pack their mother's suitcase.
>> she feels very lonely. The house is lonely because we do not have her here.
>> angel, positive change for you? >> my life changed a lot, because i do not have my mother.
My mother was a very -- someone that i need. I have have her here, so my life will be different.
>> you heard the whole debate. Do you blame donald trump's administration?
The government says it is your m other's fault. What would you say to donald trump?
>> i would say to think of at the families of the parents who are deported. What happens with the children.
If the parents do something, they do it because of their children. My mother worked for us.
The children are the ones who suffer. >> i would tell him the same, but also that my mother only wanted to work for us to get an -- to get ahead.
Working is not a bad thing. He is separating families, other families than ours.
>> lupe, nine is ago you apparently utilized fake documents to work in the u. S..
Thousands of people in the united states to get to work in american companies that benefit north americans. Do you think that was one of the issues?
Fake documents are what made you go through what you are going through now? >> yes, i recognize that the number i just wasn't anybody's number.
When it was blamed it wasn't because of any other person. >> the three times i went to court, there was no one else there.
I made up that number just like anyone else would. I use my own number and my actual date of birth.
>> you made up the social security number and that try to cause any harm to anyone? >> exactly.
It was my name and my same it of birth. It was the only way to find a job.
>> lupe, this happened for many years, more than two decades. What is different between obama's government and donald trump's >> in 2013, i was about to be deported.
As you realize i think there was something from barack obama where they said not to separate any families. I started to continue to fight for that.
>> nothing has changed from obama's government? They didn't deport you, but what donald trump was president, they did?
>> yes. When the new president took charge and started to threaten people i knew that i was going to have problems.
>> how long has it been that you haven't seen your children? >> it is been two months since i have seen the -- them.
>> before you say goodbye, is this something you want to tell your mother? >> that i love her so much and we will be together soon.
>> your mother is listening. What do you want to tell her before you say goodbye?
>> that i love her very much and to continue to have faith in god that we will be together soon and that this will end someday and we will be happy. I love you mom.
>> what lupe, -- lupe, say goodbye to your children. >> goodbye, i love you so much.
Goodbye princess. >> i love you.
>> thank you for talking to us. I hope that you can be together soon>> let's look at another ca.
Janice has -- jeanette has the same situation with her. She was undocumented for more than 20 years and has become an activist to prevent -- to protect other undocumented people.
Time magazine calderwood of the most influential people in the world. We did an interview with her.
>> thank you for being with us. Many believe you are hiding out in a church.
Is that right? >> it is not hiding.
I have said many times that when you go to the church, the lawyer creates an official document declaring that i am here. I am not hiding and people know where i am and they know which church by admin.
>> things have changed. You have been in the u.
S. Since 1997.
What happened with trump? >> he has continued on that animosity he has toured immigrants and he wants to show his power.
I think communities are seeing now that we are seeing things he is doing and it is not beneficial for anyone. It is hurting the country.
Sometimes he has done good things because he is uniting the american community he says, but he has to be careful because marches are not stopping. We have been talking about how trump politics are separating families.
How did it divide your family? >> he has divided us because they are with their father during the week to go to school and i am here.
I am not able to take them to school or pick them up. To be at school events that are very important for them.
It is the way he has divided us. With people who are actually being deported, he is making them.
He is hurting the economy, morals, and psychology of families. >> why is he saying he is making america great?
That is not great, dividing people. Just like the interior secretary said how many undocumented members are criminals and gang members, but you have been recognized as one of the most influential people in the world.
Which one is the truth? What trump has said or what the magazine has said?
>> it is what time magazine has presented. The fact that i was not born here, it doesn't mean i am not working hard for my family or my community.
I have fun working with my community for over 20 years to find better education and activism. I have shown so many things, even my taxes.
Trump hasn't even shown his tax report. I never had any greater conviction.
The system has created very unfair laws. >> jeanette, what would you suggest to families in the situation that you are who could potentially be divided under his administration?
>> my suggestion is to have a familiar family plan, knowing the things that they need to have ready, and to be organized. People who will guide them to know what to do if they are arrested so it is less hard for them to be separated.
It will always be with the support of the community. I went to finish by reading what america ferrera said about you.
She didn't come here to kill or sell drugs, she came to make a better living for her family. This is what she said about you.
Thank you for being with us. Now let's you are walking the mt recent video of nacho.
We will talk with him briefly, but first we need to talk about than a swell a -- venison when the -- venezuela. Many people have died, more than 300 wounded.
There is a video with a tank from the government going through the people protesting. The government has shown this video.
There is a message from a family january 3. I am sending a message to my family.
I am good. >> is that mr.
Lopez, or no? She insists that she wants to see her husband.
She hasn't seen him in more than a month. I had the opportunity to talk about venezuela with nacho.
This is the interview. >> i'm very happy for you.
>> thank you. >> let's start like this.
Thank you for being with us. Nor to talk about what you are doing -- i want to talk about what you are doing physically, but how can we talk about that with the huge subject of this will?
-- of venezuela. ?
>> it is very hard for me. You cannot call it a job it has been hard to continue my music career because being venezuela and, i am not blind and this is stopping me just like the way that this situation stops me.
Dozens of youth in venezuela are confronting this military truck. This truck is going backward.
Do you think that losing fear is going to make changes after so many years? >> it should.
At least we are seeing a change from the venezuelan citizens. Other important cities like valencia, mara kind of -- maracaibo, and caracas.
These are the criminals. >> maduro's government?
>> yes, most definitely. >> is it a dictatorship?
>> completely. If you say it isn't a dictatorship, it's that they are the people who can leave and enter venezuela.
That happens in cuba took up. -- cuba too.
>> do you think this will take them anywhere? >> i hope it will take them to where the government will wake up to see more actions.
They will confront injustice. They have to, because of the decision of a man who wants to stay in power, and wants to be supported so that he doesn't lose any control, or his wel alth.
He is controlling the territory, and now he has been very disobedient with the constitution. >> when did this change start?
When chavez was in power, you are still able to talk about the opposition. You can say, i would rather not talk about politics.
At what moment could you no longer do that? >> i think months, if not weeks, after maduro entered.
>> it was with maduro that everything changed. You were marching in caracas.
What did you see? They say they are protecting the people, but no.
Anything you can imagine. They hit students, any person who wears a jersey to cover themselves.
I was there. The gasses they throw.
You feel that your eyes are bleeding, you are dizzy, your stomach. You could faint, and that's worse because you could be suffocated by the gasses.
You have a clear position, he spoke in the assembly, you give a strong speech. What happens when you go to the airport in venezuela?
>> i get there and i see a lot of people who are threatened, told they will lose their jobo if you don't sign. That is very clear.
>> how do they treat you? >> they treat me with fear.
Fear that they can't take a picture because they will be fired. It happened many times with some of the people who work there, officials, immigration.
They want to talk with me, give me some kind of attention. They are afraid.
Some even lost their jobs. >> can we talk about music?
Vitamin, 14 million views in just weeks. They see you as a solo artist.
>> this means a lot for me. It is a blessing, having the support of so many people.
I have this channel, i had zero subscribers, and now i have about 200,000 in two weeks. >> do you think what you make is fair, or are those platforms targeted by many artists?
>>all venezuelan musicians are used to making money from their shows living for years. We have done that for many years .
Now, in this opportunity, i am really working hard to go forward. >> i want to finish with this.
How many years have you been an immigrant in the u. S.?
>> six years. >> how have things changed since donald trump became president?
>> on a personal level, not much, but i am very aware that as a legend person, what happened with the latin community in the u. S.
It is up to us to work and show what we are made of and what we brought here. One of the most interesting things that let people brought are the good vibes.
How long has it been? >> i don't know.
>> mcgill ign -- miguel ignacio, how long since somebody called you that? >> my mother used to calm it out when i was in trouble.
>> when we come back, or to rico declared bankruptcy. We will find out what happened with chapel guzman's money.
>> the puerto rican government declared bankruptcy. They of $70 billion -- they owe $70 billion.
Many puerto ricans have decided to leave. Not long ago, i spoke to the governor.
Thank you for being with us. Why would puerto rico want to stay?
>> we are changing conditions in the politics. Our administration has been very aggressive.
We have passed some legislative laws in the story. >> how long would it take?
If i were poor in san juan, where would i stay? >> we are taking some immediate steps and motivating the u.
S. So they can stay.
What is happening in puerto rico is perhaps one of the great challenges. There is optimism.
>> how much money do you owe? >> 70 million dollars.
The problem is not what we go him a -- what we owe, it is credibility. >> you owe a lot of money and it was a big problem.
>> puerto rico does not have a money machine. The money that we use is from the u.
S.. That is why it is important to have credibility around the world saying that puerto rico will do the right things.
>> when you say expenses, you are talking about firing people? Is it fair to reduce these expenses?
People in puerto rico think, they will fire me. >> so you are not going to fire people?
>> no. We have said we are not firing people.
>> if i speak with you in a year or two, you promise me you are not firing anyone? >> yes.
We're going to implement what is called the unique employ to promote more services. >> puerto rico has 121 agencies.
Other nations have 40 or 30. We are saying that we are going to consolidate and mobilize public services.
>> without firing anyone? >> without firing.
>> your promising not to fire one public employee. >> that is the problem -- promise.
>> that was about puerto rico, now we're going to talk about el chapo. He has spent 23 hours locked up in new york.
We have our guest here today. Let's talk about the money.
They say that el chapo could have close to $40 million. Who does it belong to?
Mexico or the united states? How can they calculated?
-- calculate it? >> they calculate all of the drugs.
The investigations that they do, the properties, they estimate. >> they are calculating.
>> it is a calculation, not reality. >> could he be a narco that is poor?
Could he not have that much money? >> it is possible.
He is not poor, but he probably doesn't have those millions of dollars. It has been a while that he has not been in the business, even a people think he is.
Just like colombian drug dealers, also mexicans are afra id they can't escpae if i end up in the u. S..
>> they had tunnels to escape. Do you see that?
>> after i went to the first one, i realized that these must be made by elchapo, because they are all exactly the same. They have these walls to keep the dirt up.
Same light this doesn't have the bulb working. There was water.
In the first one, the electricity system with a covered hose. In this case, the engineers know the plans and where to go down.
They are so exact. E-gov from the first one to the next one.
-- they go from the first one to the next one. >> tell me more about el chapo as a person.
They have created a fictional character. How long did it take you to meet his mother?
>> six hours each way. >> is that a private territory?
The police don't go there. >> they used to not go there.
There is a point where you realize that no one says the word chapo. They all talk about, sir, and mister.
All of these generations have broken what used to be crucial. Don't mess with the family.
The enemies of el chapo have gone to dona consuelo's mother, which is like a temple. >> how long did you spend with her?
>> more than an hour the first time. The second time, an hour and a half.
>> and the second time for one minute? >> she said one minute, but she let me record for eight.
>> i hope he can give himself up. He knows what has happened in the world.
I hope he can find god. God is the only one who can protect him.
>> that was the message she sent her son, a very religious message. When i had to meet her, she decided to do it in the bedroom.
>> i don't think i could interview her again because the situation has changed. >> think you for being with us.
When we come back, racism is happening >> we still have racism. In fact, the amount of hate and racism has increased.
Last year, when i was watching a documentary about racism in this country, i interviewed a leader of the ku klux klan. At the end of the interview, he didn't want to touch me.
>> so, where are we? >> we are in a secure place.
>> a place of what? Secure how?
>> can you explain to us who they are and the clothes they are wearing? >> these are people of the night.
>> are you armed? >> are they?
>> are they armed? >> i don't know, are they?
>> i am just asking. >> i am just responding.
>> so you are saying that the klan does not believe in equality or integration. You don't think everyone is the same?
>> no. Whites are superior than any r ace.
>> how can you say that? >> i just said it.
>> based on what? >> based on god.
We are people of god. >> what you are saying now is racism.
>> it is not racism. It is a fact.
>> you think you are superior to african-americans? >> white people are superior to every race.
>> you think your superior to me because i am latin? >>.
Of course. I'm not saying you are stupid, but i think my race is better than yours.
>> being latin is not a race. >> whatever you want to call it, but it is a different ethnic topic.
>> why don't we moved to a different topic? I saw a video that you don't say that you believe those millions of jewish people died in the holocaust.
You want to talk about the -- >> let's talk about this. You want to talk of the trash of jewish people, but let's talk about what they did.
>> i want to talk about the fact that they are denying a historic reality. >> they raped their women.
>> you just want to talk about the bad things. This is something you are denying.
The facts are completely different. >> really?
You have your opinions and i have mine. Let's not talk about the jews.
I despise them. I don't even care to talk about them.
Let's talk about the country. If you are one of those illegal people here, you have no rights.
>> as a human, you have rights. >> that is stupid.
>> how can you think that what? >> it is important for me to say it.
It is common sense, l it is aie. >> but you have to say -- >> you are lying to me.
>> this is also our country. >> this is not your country.
You think it is, but it is not. >> i am an american citizen.
>> you may be an american citizen, but it is not your country. When did you get here?
>> in 1987. >> and how many years did our people spend making this country and you want to say it is yours?
>> i said it is ours. >> if you want to come illegally to the border, you have to go to jail.
We have to arrest these people and deport them. >> 11 million?
>> even if it was 11 million plus one. >> how?
>> i heard that trump will do it, so let him show. >> if you met an illegal person, what would you do?
>> i would kick these people in their back. >> that is violence.
>> i didn't say that. >> you just said that.
>> maybe i said it. >> do you think violence is part of your group >?
>> no, i am peaceful. >> would you use weapons?
>> we would use whatever we have to. We would use ropes.
>> thank you for speaking with me. >> thanks to you.
>> goodbye. >> yeah, yeah, bye.
>> that is part of the united states. That documentary is called spreading hate.
We will go on a commercial break but we will come back with the actress zoe s >> "guardians of the galaxy," we can see actress zoe saldana. Whenever she is invited on the show she is never afraid to talk about politics or donald trump.
>> thank you for having me. >> you were very green.
>> yes. The makeup process was hours.
We started very early in the morning. When i did the first movie, i didn't have kids.
I was like, okay. But after you are a mother, and you have to wake up at 2:00 a.
M. , and you just went to bed -- but i can see the result of all of the sacrifice and it was worth it.
For people who do not understand. >> four hours of makeup, how long acting and how long taking the makeup off?
>> i start at 12:30 a. M..
Four to five hours of makeup. We start filling at 8:00 a.
M. , and finish at 7:00.
Without rest or eating, then i have an hour to take off the makeup. >> you are gomorrah in "guardians of the galaxy," you have been in "star trek.
" what is it like being in so many sci-fi movies? >> i thought it is so interesting that no one is thinking if you are latin, asian , afroamerican, and you get this for being a good actress.
>> also, movies have given me the opportunity for other directions to pay attention to me. I love working with directors who half that curiosity, and k now how to create a beautiful story and to make it so aesthetic and magnificent.
Because they have a great imagination. I love working with people like that.
I love that fear of being locked in one place. I love sci-fi.
I know the example that gives so many actors and many women to be part of a narrative, and not to be typecast. Is hollywood changing, or do we just want to believe hollywood is changing?
>> we had salma hayek last week. She talked about how hard it was at the beginning.
Did they open the way for you are is hollywood as hard as it used to be? >> i think that if you feel like the glass is half empty, we are never going to see the progress, the evolution is unstoppable.
We know the speed we would like, but women have another motivation to grow. Because we are women, we know that, but there is progress.
>> the last time you were here, we talked about donald trump, and you said that you had fait because he was the president of your nation and you're giving respect to him. It has been 100 days.
Are you disappointed? >> i think so.
And i think that those who surround him are better than him, and continue to advise him well. We have four years to go.
We will see what happens. >> zoe saldana, thank you for being with us.
>> you're welcome. Thank you.
>> el chapo. Many have made songs for him, but not like this one.
We will end with this song. ♪ ♪ ♪