Estados Unidos se niega a aceptar que más migrantes lleguen al país. El gobernador de Michoacán teme que México se convierta en un ‘narco estado’. Los casos de COVID-19 aumentan en niños.
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>> lets get to the point, "al
punto."the united states has a new
face.the senses says there are over
62 million latinos.>> we want to cross because we
dont have anywhere to go.>> increasing violence in areas
controlled by drug truck -- drugtraffickers in mexico.
they say mexico may become anarco state.
covid cases shoot up amongstschool-age children.
secretary of education miguelcardona tells us how he is
trying to keep kids safe.>> if we do it right, kids can
return to classrooms.>> the climate is heating up
quickly and there may be nogoing back.
we have a new report from theunited nations.
we have an exclusive interviewwith boxer saul canelo alvarez.
he tells us what he wants to beremembered about and what
worries -- and what worries himthe most.
we begin now.♪
>> lets get to the point, with"al punto."
lets talk about the new face ofthe united states.
there are more latinos all thetime.
currently there are over six to2 million hispanics in the
united states according to thelatest data from the u.s.
census.the white population diminished
for the first time in twocenturies.
331 million inhabitants, thecountry is increasingly
multiethnic and multicultural.to talk about these changes that
are so important, we are joinedby marco lopez from the -- cento
and -- center and arturo vargasfrom naelo.
what does this mean?>> that is correct.
it is part of the change in thepopulation of the united states.
latinos are present almost oneout of every five americans.
-- represent almost one out ofevery five americans.
the united states is changing.we have mercy -- we have more
diversity and latinos are at theforefront of this change in the
country.>> arturo, if latinos are 18% of
the population, we should have18 senators, but we only have
six.we should have two members of
the supreme court but we onlyhave soda mayor -- but we only
have such aotomayor.>> we have to take into account
that the census figures do notcorrespond to the number of
latino voters.it is latino voters who can make
those decisions in terms of howmany congresspeople and how many
senators and otherrepresentatives in government.
currently there is a veryimportant process taking place,
to redraw the congressionaldistricts as well as municipal
districts.we have to make sure they
reflect the changes in thepopulation.
that we not be discriminateagainst -- discriminated
against.this happens every 10 years in
the state of texas.>> i remember that cesar chavez
speech, we see the future in thefuture is ours.
does that mean the changes weare seeing in the census, that
nobody can reach the white houseor an important position in
government without the supportof latinos?
>> yes, latino voters are veryimportant for politicians in the
u.s. and the future of thecountry.
not only in elections but thelabor market, the economy and so
much more.it is interesting that almost
half of the growth in the lastdecade has come from latinos.
there are 12 million morelatinos living in the united
states and that growth is thehighest of any ethnic or racial
group.it is very different from white
people.>> can we talk about the new
face of the united states?arturo, the number of white
people in the united statesdropped the first time in 200
years.there are more and more latinos
and asians in the united statesand fewer white people.
is it possible that the unitedstates is looking more and more
like us and that is generatingconflict between white people
and nonwhite people?>> the story of the united
states, we have always seen thatwhen the population begins to
change, be it in a city orstate, there are tensions that
we have to take into accountthat latinos, we are a
population that contributes tothis country, to the economy and
society.if it were not for latinos, we
would not have been able to getthrough the pandemic because a
lot of essential workers werepinned -- essential workers were
latinos.taking into account chavezs
words, the future is alreadyhere.
>> latinos make up over 47% ofthe population in new mexico.
how does that affect politics inthese population -- in these
places?will we see more governors with
hispanic surnames?>> we have seen people win
elections in the state butcalifornia, texas, new mexico
and other states such as georgiaand pennsylvania, we have seen
changes because there arechanges in the latino
population.the number of latinos
participating in elections inthose states continues to grow.
>> arturo, do you like thisamerican experiment? do you
think it is going well?we are becoming more diverse.
by 2044, we will be a minoritymajority country.
there are few countries in theworld that can say the same
thing.do you like the way this is
going?>> there is nothing we can do
about it.this experiment is ours and we
as latino members of society ownthis experiment.
we have to take into accountthat we will need more
immigrants because we are goingto need more workers.
the other thing we saw was notjust a decrease in the white
population but we also saw adecrease in the number of young
people.we have more old people than we
have seen for in this country.many of them are retiring and we
will need young peoplecontributing to this associate
-- to the social security andmedicare system.
we need workers, which is why weneed to invest in youth and
children today, so they can havegood jobs in the future.
>> i want to ask you about thisamerican experiment.
if there are fewer and fewerwhite people in the united
states and there are morelatinos and asians, will there
be resistance from whitesupremacist groups?
do you think in the future therewill be people who say, i dont
want so many hispanics here?i dont want so many immigrants
in this country?>> i dont know.
it is possible that there willbe a portion of the american
population with these opinions,but according to pew surveys,
three out of four americansthink and say that it is good
that the united states has somuch diversity.
i think yes, there are peoplewho perhaps dont like this
diversity, but the vastermajority of americans think it
is good for the country.>> arturo, i will end with you.
will we see the first latino orlatina president in the white
house?>> i hope so.
we have a large number of latinoleaders in the cabinets.
they are moving toward stateoffice.
they are to launch themselvesinto presidential campaigns.
i expect to see a latino orlatina president in my lifetime.
>> thank you both for being hereand helping us see this new face
of the unit states.when we return, the governor of
-- says that mexico is in dangerof becoming a narco state.
back-to-school, there arechildren -- we have an exclusive
interview with saulwith jorge ramos.
♪>> lets talk about mexico now.
a fear of violence in zonesdisputed by organized crime has
become a reason many familiesare asking for asylum in the
united states.some people in tijuana explained
why they were fleeing.>> the violence has forced
families to go north.>> you want to cross because of
safety?>> we have nowhere to go.
>> in aggie loera -->> they live temporarily in a
shelter run by a catholicpriest.
>> what we want is forimmigration to see that we are
doing this for our children.we dont matter as adults, but
our children do.>> he helps people fill out
their asylum paperwork.>> they are fleeing.
they want to save theirchildren.
they cant remain at home.the drug war has extended beyond
its normal parameters.>> the area is being disputed by
different drug cartels.from mexico city, monica vasquez
alvarez, univision.>> talking about mexico,
recently, the governor of thestate of michoacán, silvano
aureoles conejo, traveled to theunited states to talk about and
ask for help.he was accused of being a
traitor by people in mexico.this is an edited version of my
interview with him.governor, thank you for being on
the show.>> thank you for inviting me to
talk about topics of interest tomichoacán.
>> you said that mexico is indanger of becoming a narco
state.is this the result of andrés
manuel lópez obradors policy ofhugs, not bullets?
>> absolutely.this policy has been a
resounding failure.it can be summarized in that
phrase of hugs and not bullets.it has been a resounding
failure, and mexico is now in avery complicated situation, and
it runs the risk of becoming anarco state.
>> governor, the accusations youhave made, that arms grew --
that armed groups intervened inthe last election in michoacán,
the tribunal in michoacán saysthat has not happened and there
isnt enough evidence.>> what the tribunal said is
atrocious.it can only be explained by two
reasons.either they are under the thumb
of what the president says orthey are afraid of organized
crime groups, but it is trulypathetic.
>> governor?>> yes?
>> you made these accusations inthe united states but morelia
legislators say you are buttrain the country, that you are
asking for help from foreigngovernments.
>> the morena legislators arecompletely ignoring.
i am fighting for the freedomsand rights of people of
michoacán.if i am accused of betraying my
country for this reason, but iam willing to face the
consequences.this is not about electoral
politics, this is about humanrights, national security and
regional security, because thesegroups use terrorist practices.
>> president lopez over door hasnot been -- lopez obradoor
has not been able to -- sincetaking office.
if he hasnt done a good job,you havent either.
from october 2015 to june ofthis year, over 10,618 people
have been killed in your state,michoacán.
every year in michoacán thingshave continued to worsen.
can you acknowledge that youhave failed?
>> let me ask you something.the problem of organized crime
is the purview of the federalgovernment.
>> but isnt it partly yourfault?
you cant blame the presidententirely.
>> we are not blaming thepresident entirely, but in terms
of national security, that is amatter of the federal
government.>> since you have taken office,
murders have increased.this year may be the worst of
your governorship.>> i reiterate what i said.
>> so you are saying it is notyour fault but the fault of
someone else.>> i assume partial rots about
dashers possibly that is mineand if you look at things in
totality, overall crime has gonedown.
>> but not homicides.i have seen the data.
homicides have increased yearafter year.
>> that is correct.homicides havent gone down
because they are all linked toorganized crime and organized
crime is not the purview -- andi insist, this is not me washing
my hands of this but during thefirst three years of the
administration, we launched aprogram.
>> what you did did not work.for six years, it has not
worked.>> it wasnt the result we
wanted, but we made progress.>> but not at the level of
homicides.>> not at the homicide level.
that is something we have toacknowledge.
it is difficult to understandthat it is not about state
governments.the constitution spells out both
at the federal and state level,it is also in different laws.
>> i want to talk aboutsomething else.
you have been complainingagainst president lopez obrador,
and nobody questions that, butwhen a teacher in aguililla was
protesting, you got out of yourcar, push them and had people
take his signs.why did you react in such a
violent manner to three -- two apeaceful protester?
>> it wasnt improper action onmy behalf, but this didnt
happen because the citizen wasprotesting.
>> then why did you push them?>> i did it because he offended
me, and perhaps my reaction wasimproper.
he also offended my mother, whois sick.
she has cancer.so this person offended me,
offended her.>> but the president said this
was an embarrassment, andembarrassing act.
how can a governor push somebodyand have his security team take
their signs away?>> what is shameful is that the
president of the united states-- the president of mexico is
not reviewing his securitypolicy.
>> i am talking about youshoving a mexican citizen.
>> it was a minor incident.the president and the republic
is what we should be focused on.>> we are talking about
everything we talked about,several topics and that is why i
wanted to finish with this.governor, you are leaving your
position very soon.do you want to be president of
what i want to do is finish myadministration well and the
continue my crusade and mystruggle because to keep mexico
from becoming a narco state.that is my plan, my commitment.
the freedom of mexicans is worthall of it.
>> the president has not wantedto welcome you.
>> i recently sent him anotherlevel -- another letter asking
for a meeting but i dont knowif i will try again because
after eight or 10 requests, thanwhat i imagine is that he
doesnt want to welcome me.>> governor, thank you for
joining me.>> thank you very much.
>> the complete interview withthe governor without editing is
available on our podcast.when we return, i look in
several states with thecoronavirus while millions of
parents prepare forback-to-school.
we speak with the secretary ofeducation, miguel cardona.
also how tion♪
>> the cases of covid-19 amongchildren -- just last week,
there were almost 94,000 covidcases among children.
hospitalizations of alsoincreased.
despite that, the circuitry ofeducation is trying to open all
the schools in the country in asafe manner.
he joins us here on "al punto."secretary cardona, thank you for
joining us.is it safe to send children
back-to-school in the middle ofthis pandemic?
>> yes.we have to keep in mind it is
safe, if we are followingstrategies that we know work,
like using face masks andgetting vaccinated when we can.
it is important for us aseducators but also as parents,
to explain to our students thereasons why we have these face
masks and if you do socorrectly, i think children can
return to school to learn inperson.
teachers and i know that theylearn better in the classroom.
>> secretary, what can you sayto parents over the age of 12
whose -->> i have a 15-year-old daughter
and a 16-year-old son and forme, the first thing i did was
give them the vaccine.i am very happy i did.
they are doing well and they arehappy to go back to classes.
i asked parents to do that.we want them to learn in
schools, not to spend a yearlike last year where they had to
learn from home without theirfriends, without teachers.
we need to do our part to makesure that children are doing
well, and the most important wayto do so is the vaccine.
get vaccinated.>> secretary, there are examples
in the united states ofgovernors who believe that using
face masks is a matter forparents to decide.
in the state of florida where ilive, the governor has for
bitten schools from you -- from-- has forbidden schools from
requiring the use of face masks.what do you think of that?
>> that is very dangerous.politics should have no place
here.let teachers ands who know
what they are doing do this forthe good of their children.
politics should not be a part ofthis.
they are putting children atrisk if they do that.
>> secretary, and california,they have required teachers to
get vaccinated -- in the stateof california, they have
required teachers to getvaccinated.
>> i know that the vaccine isthe most important thing, to
protect from the virus and imvery happy that 90% of teachers
in the country have already beenvaccinated.
we know it is the most importantway and in california, they made
this rule make sure thatchildren can be in classrooms.
that decision is not up to me,but i know that states are
contemplating this because theyknow it is a way of protecting
not just students but alsoteachers.
i support it, and i know thevaccine is the best way to go
back to school.>> we just received information
from the census, but there areover 62 million latinos.
what do these numbers mean toyou?
>> good!latin culture is wonderful,
right?>> of course.
>> it is important to know thatwe in washington, d.c. have to
do everything to accelerate theprogress of latinos.
we are a strong force in theunited states, and it is
important that the governmentwork to benefit the latino
community.>> secretary cardona, thank you
for speaking with us.>> thank you.
>> one of the difficulties inthis pandemic is fighting
against disinformation.univision is committed to
fighting fake news.our fact checkedr has been
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when we return, the unitednations has issued a report.
our meteorologist explain whatis happening to our planet.
we also speak with saul caneloalvarez about his future in
on jorge ramos>> the question is, have we
already ruined the planet?an important report from the
united nations launches awarning for all of the amenity.
the conclusion is that the worldhas gotten hotter quicker than
we expected, and the window toavoid catastrophic results is
closing.alberto martinez, our
meteorologist will talk aboutthis.
>> this report has been in themakings since the 90s -- since
the 1990s when this group firstgot together.
this is the sixth report.they say that the climate change
affects all of us, from thenorth pole to the south pole.
humans are responsible for thischange in the planet, this
increase in the temperature, andits consequences, and is almost
irreversible.we are in overtime and we need
to take action immediately.on the west coast, we will see
more heat waves, we will seemore drought, there will be more
fires.on the east coast, we will have
more powerful hurricanes and wewill have less snow in the
winter.we need to avoid this increase
in temperatures in the next 10years, to try to keep the
situation from worsening.we talked about how hurricanes
will be more active.we are in hurricane season and
these could come to the coastwith higher category hurricanes,
more distraction.this could bring us -- more
destruction.heat waves will be longer with
higher temperatures, which put alot of groups at risk and see
levels will rise which couldcause flooding on the coast.
there are things we can do nowon an individual level.
for instance, trying to use morepublic transportation because
more people fit in a vehicle andwe pollute less.
at home, we can decrease our useof electricity to try and help
the planet.we can eat less meat, because
methane gas contributes toglobal warming.
>> thank you for thatexplanation.
the u.n. report says there is ahope to keep things from
worsening.-- is with us.
she is from the alaska communityaction.
after the unit at nationsreport, what worries you the
most?have we ruined the planet?
>> one of the most importantaspects of the intergovernmental
panel on climate change is theincrease in global temperature.
that is something theyemphasize.
>> as the temperature increases,is there a possibility to go
back?if we do things right in the
next two or three decades, is itpossible the planet could return
or is that inevitable now?>> unfortunately, according to
this sixth edition of thereport, this began in 1988.
what we are trying to do now isit a gate -- mitigate.
this is what over 234 authors ofthis report have -- these are
experts from all over the world,from the developed and
developing nations, fromaustralia to germany, chile,
canada.it is believed that 1.5 degrees
celsius will be reached by 2040,which is what we are trying to
avoid.the increase in global
temperatures will continue,because weve made such
significant changes to theplanet.
it is more about mitigation andadaptation.
>> what do we need to adapt to?what is the world like in the
future?>> we will see more
meteorological phenomena.we were seeing this already in
the news, in many areas of theworld, flooding, an increase in
sea level rise.we are also seeing forest fires.
here in alaska, we are seeingthis too.
we are seeing this in remoteareas.
lots of ice, glacial melting.this is also contributing to sea
level rise.we are also seeing other
phenomena, like an increase inacid in the oceans.
these are all problems.>> let me conclude with the
following.you are doing an interview from
anchorage, alaska.i am in miami.
what is a puerto rican doing inalaska?
what are the native communitiesin alaska telling you?
>> i worked directly with manyof these leaders in communities
and remote areas of alaska.we are seeing in effect on -- we
are seeing in effect on theirlives -- seeing an effect on
their lifestyles because of theincreasing sea levels in the
lack of ice.a lot of these communities
depend on ice to consumenutritional meals.
i think food is one of the mostimportant things that is being
affected.it is affecting these
communities that have a lot ofproblems, and they are billing
-- they are being severelyafflict -- severely affected by
climate change.there is a danger to the
ecosystem.forest fires, loss of
infrastructure, loss-of-life.this is affecting future
generations.>> thank you for being with us
and for being our eyes inalaska.
>> it is a pleasure.>> when we return, i ask canelo
alvarez what worries him mostabout mexico,♪
>> ive been wanting tointroduce saul canelo alvarez
for a long time.not just because of his
triamcinolones and or presenceon social media -- not just
because of his triumphs inboxing or presence on social
media.i talked to him this week after
a training session.he was in san diego.
this is our conversation.thank you for speaking with us.
i wanted to figure out how toenter this conversation.
when i talk to someone like you,who seems to have it all.
money, reputation, health andfamily, what else do you need?
why do you keep fighting?>> because i love boxing.
i love what i do.like right now, i dont have a
fight coming up.i keep training.
my trainer said this the otherday.
he saw me training, and he saidlook at this guy.
he doesnt have a fightscheduled but he is here
training.i like what i do.
thank god i found something ienjoy.
ive always said if im going todo something, im going to do it
100%, or im not going to do it.i am passionate about it.
>> are you thinking about yourlegacy, about being the best
boxer in the world?i know you dont like to be
compared with julio says ourchavez -- julio cesar chavez.
>> i dont like thosecomparisons.
i did not see much of his careeror his best moments, but i have
learned a lot about him.he is an idol for me, and i
dont want to try and be betterthan him.
he was the best in his time.i want to make my own story, and
my own legacy.that is what i want.
i think that is what starts tohappen.
like what happens with -- peoplestart to compare athletes today
with athletes from the past.i feel fortunate to be compared
with julio cesar chavez, orother people who have come by
before, because it means nobodyis better than me.
that motivates me to keepadvancing.
i want to write my own story.>> what do you think is
different between you and otherboxers?
>> discipline.discipline is what distinguishes
me from other boxers.a desire to grow and learn, day
after day.>> is it your left hook?
youre right? -- your right?>> i always want to keep winning
titles and making histories ive-- and making history.
ive always liked all of mypunches.
some boxers, youve got toapproach with your left hand,
others with your right.it depends on your arrival.
>> you mentioned lionel messi,one of the greats in soccer.
he is 34 and you are 31.we just saw weeks of the olympic
games.at 31, is it time for you to
start thinking about retiring?>> i think i am at my best
moment.the last couple of years, ive
felt stronger.i enjoy boxing more.
i feel like i am in my bestmoment.
i am not thinking aboutretiring.
in my personal life and myfuture, i am thinking about it
because this will end at somemoment.
im thinking another six orseven years of boxing, and that
will be the end of boxing forme.
right now i feel like i met mybest moment.
you never know.>> is there a fear in a boxer
like you, like mentally, thatyou might be affected by boxing?
>> you dont think about that.you do what you like, and god
only knows what might happen.you may enter the ring and not
be able to leave.it is a contact sport.
it is a very dangerous sport.whatever might happen, god only
knows.you are doing what you most
like.so you dont think about that.
i always say goodbye to myfamily before every fight,
because you dont know if youregoing to make it out of the
ring.what i say that -- what i say to
them is not to worry.im going to die happy because
this is what i love.>> i didnt know that.
you say goodbye to them?>> i say dont more about it.
if anything happens to me, dontworry, im happy.
im doing something i like,something i love.
>> one of the myths that existin boxing is that you make a lot
of money in a short and out oftime.
-- in a short amount of time.do you worry about that at all?
>> i say this is an immigrant.when i came to the united
states, i had almost nothing.and not afraid of this, but i do
worry about it -- im not afraidof this, but i do worry about
it.i worry about my long-term
well-being.it has always been that story.
all athletes, but especiallyboxers.
in the end, they end up withnothing.
it concerns me, ive been doingwell i can to make sure that my
sacrifices are worth it.i love boxing, and i do it
because i love it, but i want itto be worth it, to make sure
that my children will be ok andthat i will be fine the rest of
my life.>> one of the things that
surprised me is seeing you playgolf.
i do not expect you to playgolf.
i did not expect to see you soexcited after a good shot.
something i did not imagine.the contrast with your image as
a boxer.>> well ive got to be honest.
i did not imagine this myselfeither.
i always looked at golf, but forthe last two or three years, i
had a house.that was four years ago.
i was never interested in golf.i thought it was very boring.
i thought it was for olderpeople, who go out, play, go
back home.i thought it was very boring.
a friend took me to play, and itis something that is very
addictive.a day without playing or
practicing, i am restless and iwant to go back and i want to
play.it is another passion of mine.
>> i had no idea, really.saul, i only have a few minutes.
i want to ask you about mexico.you and i are both mexicoans.
we live on the side of theborder.
how do you see mexico from here?what worries you?
>> i think the lack of safetyworries me the most.
lately, the last three or fouryears, it has been very unsafe.
that worries me.>> lastly, how do you want to be
remembered?>> canelo is one of the best
fighters in history.you have to keep looking
forward.our moment as athletes
eventually comes to an end.youve got to look beyond, take
care of what youve earned sothat it is worth it.
>> thank you for speaking withus.
i appreciate it.i hope to see you again soon.
my interview with canelo wasmuch longer.
you can see it on real america,in all of our platforms.
a poll reveals that most ofhispanic adults have no
preference between the termshispanic, latino and latinx.
56% said they do not care.15% preferred latino.
only 4% like latinx.cesar munoz sings about how we
choose what to be called.♪to con jorge ramos
univision.com/alpunto.until next week, went together,
we get to the point, "al punto."thank you.