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Al Punto con Jorge Ramos - 15 de agosto, 2021

Estados Unidos se niega a aceptar que más migrantes lleguen al país. El gobernador de Michoacán teme que México se convierta en un ‘narco estado’. Los casos de COVID-19 aumentan en niños.
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>> lets get to the point, "al punto."the united states has a new face.the senses says there are over 62 million latinos.>> we want to cross because we dont have anywhere to go.>> increasing violence in areas controlled by drug truck -- drugtraffickers in mexico. they say mexico may become anarco state. covid cases shoot up amongstschool-age children. secretary of education miguelcardona tells us how he is trying to keep kids safe.>> if we do it right, kids can return to classrooms.>> the climate is heating up quickly and there may be nogoing back. we have a new report from theunited nations. we have an exclusive interviewwith boxer saul canelo alvarez. he tells us what he wants to beremembered about and what worries -- and what worries himthe most. we begin now.♪ >> lets get to the point, with"al punto." lets talk about the new face ofthe united states. there are more latinos all thetime. currently there are over six to2 million hispanics in the united states according to thelatest data from the u.s. census.the white population diminished for the first time in twocenturies. 331 million inhabitants, thecountry is increasingly multiethnic and talk about these changes that are so important, we are joinedby marco lopez from the -- cento and -- center and arturo vargasfrom naelo. what does this mean?>> that is correct. it is part of the change in thepopulation of the united states. latinos are present almost oneout of every five americans. -- represent almost one out ofevery five americans. the united states is changing.we have mercy -- we have more diversity and latinos are at theforefront of this change in the country.>> arturo, if latinos are 18% of the population, we should have18 senators, but we only have six.we should have two members of the supreme court but we onlyhave soda mayor -- but we only have such aotomayor.>> we have to take into account that the census figures do notcorrespond to the number of latino is latino voters who can make those decisions in terms of howmany congresspeople and how many senators and otherrepresentatives in government. currently there is a veryimportant process taking place, to redraw the congressionaldistricts as well as municipal districts.we have to make sure they reflect the changes in thepopulation. that we not be discriminateagainst -- discriminated against.this happens every 10 years in the state of texas.>> i remember that cesar chavez speech, we see the future in thefuture is ours. does that mean the changes weare seeing in the census, that nobody can reach the white houseor an important position in government without the supportof latinos? >> yes, latino voters are veryimportant for politicians in the u.s. and the future of thecountry. not only in elections but thelabor market, the economy and so much is interesting that almost half of the growth in the lastdecade has come from latinos. there are 12 million morelatinos living in the united states and that growth is thehighest of any ethnic or racial is very different from white people.>> can we talk about the new face of the united states?arturo, the number of white people in the united statesdropped the first time in 200 years.there are more and more latinos and asians in the united statesand fewer white people. is it possible that the unitedstates is looking more and more like us and that is generatingconflict between white people and nonwhite people?>> the story of the united states, we have always seen thatwhen the population begins to change, be it in a city orstate, there are tensions that we have to take into accountthat latinos, we are a population that contributes tothis country, to the economy and society.if it were not for latinos, we would not have been able to getthrough the pandemic because a lot of essential workers werepinned -- essential workers were latinos.taking into account chavezs words, the future is alreadyhere. >> latinos make up over 47% ofthe population in new mexico. how does that affect politics inthese population -- in these places?will we see more governors with hispanic surnames?>> we have seen people win elections in the state butcalifornia, texas, new mexico and other states such as georgiaand pennsylvania, we have seen changes because there arechanges in the latino population.the number of latinos participating in elections inthose states continues to grow. >> arturo, do you like thisamerican experiment? do you think it is going well?we are becoming more diverse. by 2044, we will be a minoritymajority country. there are few countries in theworld that can say the same you like the way this is going?>> there is nothing we can do about it.this experiment is ours and we as latino members of society ownthis experiment. we have to take into accountthat we will need more immigrants because we are goingto need more workers. the other thing we saw was notjust a decrease in the white population but we also saw adecrease in the number of young people.we have more old people than we have seen for in this country.many of them are retiring and we will need young peoplecontributing to this associate -- to the social security andmedicare system. we need workers, which is why weneed to invest in youth and children today, so they can havegood jobs in the future. >> i want to ask you about thisamerican experiment. if there are fewer and fewerwhite people in the united states and there are morelatinos and asians, will there be resistance from whitesupremacist groups? do you think in the future therewill be people who say, i dont want so many hispanics here?i dont want so many immigrants in this country?>> i dont know. it is possible that there willbe a portion of the american population with these opinions,but according to pew surveys, three out of four americansthink and say that it is good that the united states has somuch diversity. i think yes, there are peoplewho perhaps dont like this diversity, but the vastermajority of americans think it is good for the country.>> arturo, i will end with you. will we see the first latino orlatina president in the white house?>> i hope so. we have a large number of latinoleaders in the cabinets. they are moving toward stateoffice. they are to launch themselvesinto presidential campaigns. i expect to see a latino orlatina president in my lifetime. >> thank you both for being hereand helping us see this new face of the unit states.when we return, the governor of -- says that mexico is in dangerof becoming a narco state. back-to-school, there arechildren -- we have an exclusive interview with saulwith jorge ramos. ♪>> lets talk about mexico now. a fear of violence in zonesdisputed by organized crime has become a reason many familiesare asking for asylum in the united states.some people in tijuana explained why they were fleeing.>> the violence has forced families to go north.>> you want to cross because of safety?>> we have nowhere to go. >> in aggie loera -->> they live temporarily in a shelter run by a catholicpriest. >> what we want is forimmigration to see that we are doing this for our children.we dont matter as adults, but our children do.>> he helps people fill out their asylum paperwork.>> they are fleeing. they want to save theirchildren. they cant remain at home.the drug war has extended beyond its normal parameters.>> the area is being disputed by different drug cartels.from mexico city, monica vasquez alvarez, univision.>> talking about mexico, recently, the governor of thestate of michoacán, silvano aureoles conejo, traveled to theunited states to talk about and ask for help.he was accused of being a traitor by people in mexico.this is an edited version of my interview with him.governor, thank you for being on the show.>> thank you for inviting me to talk about topics of interest tomichoacán. >> you said that mexico is indanger of becoming a narco this the result of andrés manuel lópez obradors policy ofhugs, not bullets? >> absolutely.this policy has been a resounding can be summarized in that phrase of hugs and not has been a resounding failure, and mexico is now in avery complicated situation, and it runs the risk of becoming anarco state. >> governor, the accusations youhave made, that arms grew -- that armed groups intervened inthe last election in michoacán, the tribunal in michoacán saysthat has not happened and there isnt enough evidence.>> what the tribunal said is can only be explained by two reasons.either they are under the thumb of what the president says orthey are afraid of organized crime groups, but it is trulypathetic. >> governor?>> yes? >> you made these accusations inthe united states but morelia legislators say you are buttrain the country, that you are asking for help from foreigngovernments. >> the morena legislators arecompletely ignoring. i am fighting for the freedomsand rights of people of michoacán.if i am accused of betraying my country for this reason, but iam willing to face the consequences.this is not about electoral politics, this is about humanrights, national security and regional security, because thesegroups use terrorist practices. >> president lopez over door hasnot been -- lopez obradoor has not been able to -- sincetaking office. if he hasnt done a good job,you havent either. from october 2015 to june ofthis year, over 10,618 people have been killed in your state,michoacán. every year in michoacán thingshave continued to worsen. can you acknowledge that youhave failed? >> let me ask you something.the problem of organized crime is the purview of the federalgovernment. >> but isnt it partly yourfault? you cant blame the presidententirely. >> we are not blaming thepresident entirely, but in terms of national security, that is amatter of the federal government.>> since you have taken office, murders have increased.this year may be the worst of your governorship.>> i reiterate what i said. >> so you are saying it is notyour fault but the fault of someone else.>> i assume partial rots about dashers possibly that is mineand if you look at things in totality, overall crime has gonedown. >> but not homicides.i have seen the data. homicides have increased yearafter year. >> that is correct.homicides havent gone down because they are all linked toorganized crime and organized crime is not the purview -- andi insist, this is not me washing my hands of this but during thefirst three years of the administration, we launched aprogram. >> what you did did not work.for six years, it has not worked.>> it wasnt the result we wanted, but we made progress.>> but not at the level of homicides.>> not at the homicide level. that is something we have toacknowledge. it is difficult to understandthat it is not about state governments.the constitution spells out both at the federal and state level,it is also in different laws. >> i want to talk aboutsomething else. you have been complainingagainst president lopez obrador, and nobody questions that, butwhen a teacher in aguililla was protesting, you got out of yourcar, push them and had people take his signs.why did you react in such a violent manner to three -- two apeaceful protester? >> it wasnt improper action onmy behalf, but this didnt happen because the citizen wasprotesting. >> then why did you push them?>> i did it because he offended me, and perhaps my reaction wasimproper. he also offended my mother, whois sick. she has this person offended me, offended her.>> but the president said this was an embarrassment, andembarrassing act. how can a governor push somebodyand have his security team take their signs away?>> what is shameful is that the president of the united states-- the president of mexico is not reviewing his securitypolicy. >> i am talking about youshoving a mexican citizen. >> it was a minor incident.the president and the republic is what we should be focused on.>> we are talking about everything we talked about,several topics and that is why i wanted to finish with this.governor, you are leaving your position very you want to be president of mexico?>> no. what i want to do is finish myadministration well and the continue my crusade and mystruggle because to keep mexico from becoming a narco state.that is my plan, my commitment. the freedom of mexicans is worthall of it. >> the president has not wantedto welcome you. >> i recently sent him anotherlevel -- another letter asking for a meeting but i dont knowif i will try again because after eight or 10 requests, thanwhat i imagine is that he doesnt want to welcome me.>> governor, thank you for joining me.>> thank you very much. >> the complete interview withthe governor without editing is available on our podcast.when we return, i look in several states with thecoronavirus while millions of parents prepare forback-to-school. we speak with the secretary ofeducation, miguel cardona. also how tion♪ >> the cases of covid-19 amongchildren -- just last week, there were almost 94,000 covidcases among children. hospitalizations of alsoincreased. despite that, the circuitry ofeducation is trying to open all the schools in the country in asafe manner. he joins us here on "al punto."secretary cardona, thank you for joining it safe to send children back-to-school in the middle ofthis pandemic? >> yes.we have to keep in mind it is safe, if we are followingstrategies that we know work, like using face masks andgetting vaccinated when we can. it is important for us aseducators but also as parents, to explain to our students thereasons why we have these face masks and if you do socorrectly, i think children can return to school to learn inperson. teachers and i know that theylearn better in the classroom. >> secretary, what can you sayto parents over the age of 12 whose -->> i have a 15-year-old daughter and a 16-year-old son and forme, the first thing i did was give them the vaccine.i am very happy i did. they are doing well and they arehappy to go back to classes. i asked parents to do that.we want them to learn in schools, not to spend a yearlike last year where they had to learn from home without theirfriends, without teachers. we need to do our part to makesure that children are doing well, and the most important wayto do so is the vaccine. get vaccinated.>> secretary, there are examples in the united states ofgovernors who believe that using face masks is a matter forparents to decide. in the state of florida where ilive, the governor has for bitten schools from you -- from-- has forbidden schools from requiring the use of face masks.what do you think of that? >> that is very dangerous.politics should have no place here.let teachers ands who know what they are doing do this forthe good of their children. politics should not be a part ofthis. they are putting children atrisk if they do that. >> secretary, and california,they have required teachers to get vaccinated -- in the stateof california, they have required teachers to getvaccinated. >> i know that the vaccine isthe most important thing, to protect from the virus and imvery happy that 90% of teachers in the country have already beenvaccinated. we know it is the most importantway and in california, they made this rule make sure thatchildren can be in classrooms. that decision is not up to me,but i know that states are contemplating this because theyknow it is a way of protecting not just students but alsoteachers. i support it, and i know thevaccine is the best way to go back to school.>> we just received information from the census, but there areover 62 million latinos. what do these numbers mean toyou? >> good!latin culture is wonderful, right?>> of course. >> it is important to know thatwe in washington, d.c. have to do everything to accelerate theprogress of latinos. we are a strong force in theunited states, and it is important that the governmentwork to benefit the latino community.>> secretary cardona, thank you for speaking with us.>> thank you. >> one of the difficulties inthis pandemic is fighting against disinformation.univision is committed to fighting fake news.our fact checkedr has been is the first fact-check site in spanish in the unit can scan the code on your screen with your telephone toaccess the site. when we return, the unitednations has issued a report. our meteorologist explain whatis happening to our planet. we also speak with saul caneloalvarez about his future in on jorge ramos>> the question is, have we already ruined the planet?an important report from the united nations launches awarning for all of the amenity. the conclusion is that the worldhas gotten hotter quicker than we expected, and the window toavoid catastrophic results is closing.alberto martinez, our meteorologist will talk aboutthis. >> this report has been in themakings since the 90s -- since the 1990s when this group firstgot together. this is the sixth report.they say that the climate change affects all of us, from thenorth pole to the south pole. humans are responsible for thischange in the planet, this increase in the temperature, andits consequences, and is almost irreversible.we are in overtime and we need to take action immediately.on the west coast, we will see more heat waves, we will seemore drought, there will be more fires.on the east coast, we will have more powerful hurricanes and wewill have less snow in the winter.we need to avoid this increase in temperatures in the next 10years, to try to keep the situation from worsening.we talked about how hurricanes will be more active.we are in hurricane season and these could come to the coastwith higher category hurricanes, more distraction.this could bring us -- more destruction.heat waves will be longer with higher temperatures, which put alot of groups at risk and see levels will rise which couldcause flooding on the coast. there are things we can do nowon an individual level. for instance, trying to use morepublic transportation because more people fit in a vehicle andwe pollute less. at home, we can decrease our useof electricity to try and help the planet.we can eat less meat, because methane gas contributes toglobal warming. >> thank you for thatexplanation. the u.n. report says there is ahope to keep things from worsening.-- is with us. she is from the alaska communityaction. after the unit at nationsreport, what worries you the most?have we ruined the planet? >> one of the most importantaspects of the intergovernmental panel on climate change is theincrease in global temperature. that is something theyemphasize. >> as the temperature increases,is there a possibility to go back?if we do things right in the next two or three decades, is itpossible the planet could return or is that inevitable now?>> unfortunately, according to this sixth edition of thereport, this began in 1988. what we are trying to do now isit a gate -- mitigate. this is what over 234 authors ofthis report have -- these are experts from all over the world,from the developed and developing nations, fromaustralia to germany, chile, is believed that 1.5 degrees celsius will be reached by 2040,which is what we are trying to avoid.the increase in global temperatures will continue,because weve made such significant changes to theplanet. it is more about mitigation andadaptation. >> what do we need to adapt to?what is the world like in the future?>> we will see more meteorological phenomena.we were seeing this already in the news, in many areas of theworld, flooding, an increase in sea level rise.we are also seeing forest fires. here in alaska, we are seeingthis too. we are seeing this in remoteareas. lots of ice, glacial melting.this is also contributing to sea level rise.we are also seeing other phenomena, like an increase inacid in the oceans. these are all problems.>> let me conclude with the are doing an interview from anchorage, alaska.i am in miami. what is a puerto rican doing inalaska? what are the native communitiesin alaska telling you? >> i worked directly with manyof these leaders in communities and remote areas of alaska.we are seeing in effect on -- we are seeing in effect on theirlives -- seeing an effect on their lifestyles because of theincreasing sea levels in the lack of ice.a lot of these communities depend on ice to consumenutritional meals. i think food is one of the mostimportant things that is being is affecting these communities that have a lot ofproblems, and they are billing -- they are being severelyafflict -- severely affected by climate change.there is a danger to the ecosystem.forest fires, loss of infrastructure, loss-of-life.this is affecting future generations.>> thank you for being with us and for being our eyes inalaska. >> it is a pleasure.>> when we return, i ask canelo alvarez what worries him mostabout mexico,♪ >> ive been wanting tointroduce saul canelo alvarez for a long time.not just because of his triamcinolones and or presenceon social media -- not just because of his triumphs inboxing or presence on social media.i talked to him this week after a training session.he was in san diego. this is our conversation.thank you for speaking with us. i wanted to figure out how toenter this conversation. when i talk to someone like you,who seems to have it all. money, reputation, health andfamily, what else do you need? why do you keep fighting?>> because i love boxing. i love what i right now, i dont have a fight coming up.i keep training. my trainer said this the otherday. he saw me training, and he saidlook at this guy. he doesnt have a fightscheduled but he is here training.i like what i do. thank god i found something ienjoy. ive always said if im going todo something, im going to do it 100%, or im not going to do it.i am passionate about it. >> are you thinking about yourlegacy, about being the best boxer in the world?i know you dont like to be compared with julio says ourchavez -- julio cesar chavez. >> i dont like thosecomparisons. i did not see much of his careeror his best moments, but i have learned a lot about him.he is an idol for me, and i dont want to try and be betterthan him. he was the best in his time.i want to make my own story, and my own legacy.that is what i want. i think that is what starts tohappen. like what happens with -- peoplestart to compare athletes today with athletes from the past.i feel fortunate to be compared with julio cesar chavez, orother people who have come by before, because it means nobodyis better than me. that motivates me to keepadvancing. i want to write my own story.>> what do you think is different between you and otherboxers? >> discipline.discipline is what distinguishes me from other boxers.a desire to grow and learn, day after day.>> is it your left hook? youre right? -- your right?>> i always want to keep winning titles and making histories ive-- and making history. ive always liked all of mypunches. some boxers, youve got toapproach with your left hand, others with your depends on your arrival. >> you mentioned lionel messi,one of the greats in soccer. he is 34 and you are 31.we just saw weeks of the olympic 31, is it time for you to start thinking about retiring?>> i think i am at my best moment.the last couple of years, ive felt stronger.i enjoy boxing more. i feel like i am in my bestmoment. i am not thinking aboutretiring. in my personal life and myfuture, i am thinking about it because this will end at somemoment. im thinking another six orseven years of boxing, and that will be the end of boxing forme. right now i feel like i met mybest moment. you never know.>> is there a fear in a boxer like you, like mentally, thatyou might be affected by boxing? >> you dont think about do what you like, and god only knows what might may enter the ring and not be able to is a contact sport. it is a very dangerous sport.whatever might happen, god only are doing what you most you dont think about that. i always say goodbye to myfamily before every fight, because you dont know if youregoing to make it out of the ring.what i say that -- what i say to them is not to going to die happy because this is what i love.>> i didnt know that. you say goodbye to them?>> i say dont more about it. if anything happens to me, dontworry, im happy. im doing something i like,something i love. >> one of the myths that existin boxing is that you make a lot of money in a short and out oftime. -- in a short amount of you worry about that at all? >> i say this is an immigrant.when i came to the united states, i had almost nothing.and not afraid of this, but i do worry about it -- im not afraidof this, but i do worry about it.i worry about my long-term has always been that story. all athletes, but especiallyboxers. in the end, they end up withnothing. it concerns me, ive been doingwell i can to make sure that my sacrifices are worth it.i love boxing, and i do it because i love it, but i want itto be worth it, to make sure that my children will be ok andthat i will be fine the rest of my life.>> one of the things that surprised me is seeing you playgolf. i do not expect you to playgolf. i did not expect to see you soexcited after a good shot. something i did not imagine.the contrast with your image as a boxer.>> well ive got to be honest. i did not imagine this myselfeither. i always looked at golf, but forthe last two or three years, i had a house.that was four years ago. i was never interested in golf.i thought it was very boring. i thought it was for olderpeople, who go out, play, go back home.i thought it was very boring. a friend took me to play, and itis something that is very addictive.a day without playing or practicing, i am restless and iwant to go back and i want to is another passion of mine. >> i had no idea, really.saul, i only have a few minutes. i want to ask you about and i are both mexicoans. we live on the side of theborder. how do you see mexico from here?what worries you? >> i think the lack of safetyworries me the most. lately, the last three or fouryears, it has been very unsafe. that worries me.>> lastly, how do you want to be remembered?>> canelo is one of the best fighters in have to keep looking forward.our moment as athletes eventually comes to an end.youve got to look beyond, take care of what youve earned sothat it is worth it. >> thank you for speaking withus. i appreciate it.i hope to see you again soon. my interview with canelo wasmuch longer. you can see it on real america,in all of our platforms. a poll reveals that most ofhispanic adults have no preference between the termshispanic, latino and latinx. 56% said they do not care.15% preferred latino. only 4% like latinx.cesar munoz sings about how we choose what to be con jorge ramos next week, went together, we get to the point, "al punto."thank you. ♪