ALBUQUERQUE, New Mexico - When he wants green enchiladas, she wants red ones.
When she wants to take a picture with her phone, he takes it on his Nikon.
When she says go left, he says go right … when he boldly states that he is voting for Donald Trump, she practically jumps out of her seat screaming that she would “never, ever” vote for the Republican candidate.
This is the household of Anthony Segura and Mayra Campos Segura. They live in Albuquerque, in the Southern state of New Mexico. He is American, born in Albuquerque. She is from Mexico City. Mayra recently became a citizen of the United States and will vote, for the first time, on November 8.
“No, of course not, no, I would not vote for Trump,” says Mayra, without any hesitation.
“Yes, Trump,” interjects Anthony. She smiles. “My goal is to change her mind,” says the husband. “I’ll work on this up to election day to convince her that Donald Trump is not the person she thinks he is,” Though he immediately admits “I know it’s like talking to a wall.”
She insists that it is a lost cause, because she will “never!” change her stance.
From Democratic to Republican
A dozen years ago, when Mayra and Anthony first met, he was a Democrat. He had been a member of the left’s Central Committee in New Mexico for 25 years. He had voted for Bill Clinton and then later for Barack Obama “thinking that he would bring changes.” He even worked for a Democratic Mayor, Martin Chavez, until he lost his re-election bid in 2009 to Richard Berry, the Republican candidate. Anthony lost his job and started his own business in political consulting. Here, his disappointments in the party began.
“No Democrat would hire me” recalls the 64 year old. To his surprise, a job offer came from a member of the GOP. According to Segura, the democrats found out and immediately asked him to withdraw himself from the Central Committee. “That’s why I became Republican.”
He likes that Trump is a multimillionaire “who knows business”. He likes that Trump is not a traditional politician, like those that tire him out. He supports Trump because he defends the Second Amendment, and Segura is a gun enthusiast. “Gun control will not work,”, he says. Segura has been an instructor for the NRA for over 40 years and personally owns at least six pistols and rifles, that he hopes he will never have to use against anyone.
Although his wife is a Mexican immigrant, he is not sure that Trump will be able to deliver on his promise to deport eleven million undocumented immigrants.
He proudly wears his red “Make America Great again” cap because he does agree that the next president should persecute illegal immigrants.
This article is part of a nine part short video series by Univision looking at diverse Hispanic voters in the 2016 election. Click here to view the entire series.
On a Saturday, Mayra is working.
“To be productive, we must train ourselves,” she says to group of fellow immigrants - some undocumented - at the conference “Wake up, Mexican”. “We may have never gone to college, but we must train ourselves, because if we are going to open a restaurant we must follow all the rules,” she continued.
Mayra, 52, graduated in Mexico as an Orthodontist. In Chihuaha she had two offices, but when one of her two sons was kidnapped during the drug war, and threats kept coming, she fled the country. “I lost almost everything.” In the United States, she cannot practice orthodontics. She managed, however, to volunteer at a dental clinic once a week… it was her “happy day”.
Now, everything she does is with hispanics. With the organization “De comadre a comadre” she inspires latin women with cancer to overcome their illness, as she did herself. She is also the president of the “Albuquerque Toastmaster” in spanish club that seeks to transform hispanics into competent communicators and leaders.
Because of everything she does, she cannot understand how Anthony could vote for Trump.
“When he talks like that (about Trump) I, truly, feel a little disappointed because he knows that I work with the Hispanic community a lot,” says Mayra.
She says she will not vote for Trump because she, herself, has experienced discrimination. At a control stop on the Mexican-American border, she was stopped by officials, taken out of her car, handcuffed and accused of having marijuana in her vehicle. There was no marijuana. All this happened on the American side of the border.
“We are together because opposites attract.”
Among all these differences, Mayra and Anthony have one thing in common: Mexico. Anthony claims to know Chihuaha, his wife’s home town, “like the palm of my hand”. He loves her people. They love dancing and Anthony loves Mexican music as if it were his own. “Viva! Viva!” he shouts at the Mariachis who sing “Viva Chihuaha” in a mexican restaurant.
“What do we have in common?” asks Anthony. “Absolutely nothing. We are totally different. We’re together because opposites attract. Have you heard that before?” He chuckled.
They also enjoy travelling. He boasts about having taken his wife to Paris, Germany and Luxembourg. They had planned on going to London but could not find a ticket.
She remembers with a warm smile that her relationship with Anthony started because of his aunts that introduced them; that she got to know him over a month of long phone talks in which she spoke her broken english and he his broken spanish; that they met for the first time in Chihuaha, when he drove more than 500 miles to meet her; and that the five times that her breast cancer recurred, Anthony has been there, by her side.
“The other day, someone asked me if this (the political conflict) could be the cause of divorce,” says Mayra. “I don’t think so,” she answers herself. “If we get divorced, it’ll be over something else,” she laughs.
“Do you love him?”
“Claro!” She says
“Do you love her?”