i greet you this morning histuesday morning, and well,
precisely the information,forensic doctors have in their
hands what is the definitiveconfirmation of jenny rivera and
which clarifies strange versionsthat she had been kidnapped, or
that she was badly injured.
some of her relatives wereclutching at that vague hopes,
despite that the finding of herbelongings and the accounts from
witnesses affirm that shecrashed in the plane
she was traveling.
we go with the most recentinvestigations, live to the
morgue of monterrey withmaria antonieta collins.
what we do know is that thefamily members that have arrived
have talked from their heart.
here is mrs. virginia aguilar,the mother of the jacobo, the
makeup artist of jenny rivera.
we're going to hear what shesaid and then we're going
have they given you any news?
i want to verify it, i want tosee her remains and see and know
are you going to take him?
we just want to getout of this, please...
the human hope of all thefamily is to find the remains, a
body , the truth is the remainswould be pieces, pieces of the
bodies of their loved ones,because if you read what the
rescue party said, the firstreports say it was a crash
against solid ground, thatalmost made the plane fly in
thousands of pieces.
that's what we have until nowfrom monterrey's morgue, we go
back to the studioswith you satcha.
what a pity, maria antonieta,the family would obviously like
to have the body, as you say, tobe able to give them a christian
funeral but we're going tosee what is that the forensic
doctors inform inthe following days.
thank you for this livereports from monterrey.
and precisely as theinvestigators ratify the demise
of jenny rivera, her voice willbe heard in the radio with the
release this tuesday of her lastrecord "la misma gran señora".
with a single of the same name,the diva shows off, her immense
performance strength and theenormous effort she put into
each one of her performances.
now her fans are still settingimpromptu altars in california
and precisely there we can findjuan carlos gonzalez with the
go on, juan carlos.
much cold in that zone.
yes, very cold, we'reapproximately at 10-12° celsius
here in the city oflakewood, california.
this is the house, we have beenshowing it, of mrs. rosa, the
house of the mom of jennyrivera, of her brothers
obviously, they were preparedhere for christmas, the lights
are here but now unfortunatelythose christmas have to be mixed
with some others, the ones ofthe candles that have a meaning
that is regretfully really sad,of mourning, because of the
irreparable loss of this greatlady, the diva of la banda, lots
of people have been coming here,and this is precisely the proof
of all the love that now thefans, the followers of jenny
rivera are returning to her ina posthumous way, precisely to
jenny rivera, all the love shegave them, they are giving back
to her, precisely with this.
we're going to keep telling youwhat happens, but for now we'll
be back with you tothe studio satcha.
juan carlos, before we saygood bye, we would like to know
exactly who are in the house ofmrs. rosa, we have information
that the kids of jenny riveraare there, the brothers were
also gathered there, but in thismoment you have information of
who is in that house?
not precisely, in this momentwe only see lights on the
inside, so many people have comein and out, we don't have a
notion or more precisely anexactitude of who is inside the
house, there are many cars thatweren't here yesterday, they
have been coming little bylittle, but a lot of people have
been coming in and out, we knowthe brothers have been here,
even mr. rivera, pedro riverahas been here, but in this
moment we don't see his car, hispickup, we don't think he is in.
well, obviously we're goingto try to confirm who would be
there, it's a very painfulmoment for all the rivera
family, thank you juan carlosgonzales for this live contact,
from lakewood, california.
good morning, indeed, you cansee with adis, if someone knows
the songs of jennyrivera is you, adis...
you had the opportunity to bewith jenny rivera very much due
to your job and you told me youknew how to respect her, you
learned to respect her, right?
i learned to respect her asan artist when i saw that woman
sang under the rain, when shesaw that the beer cans flew at
her at the beginning of hercareer and she didn't go out of
we were telling you, mates, thatat 5 in the morning, mexico
time, lupillo rivera was gettingto the international airport of
mexico city towards monterrey,he is now flying to this last
encounter, he was with hersister some days ago, and this
last encounter mustbe heart breaking.
he, when he passed, he foundfans and followers who didn't
hesitate, didn't doubt ingiving him the condolences.
that was the trail of lupillo inthe airport of mexico city, and
well, we talked alsoabout la chicuela, alan.
that's right, she was a personthat also knew jenny rivera
intimately and very well ofcourse, also all the other
passengers of this airship, shehad a very good relationship
with them, you had theopportunity to talk to her,
in fact alan, friends of"despierta america", i talked to
her the same saturday, the same,the day before last, on sunday,
and on the phone shebroke into tears.
yesterday the journalist talkeda little more but the friend
that lost two lovedones wasn't stopped.
i can't believe it until i seethe body, i can't believe it
until i can directly see it...
i only ask god with all my heartthat if the things were as they
told us, that fall at suchenormous distance, it must have
been at a speed that i hope wasso quick that i hope none of
them had agony or,that thy didn't suffer.
in the social networks, in sucha serious think as this, people
can't mock something sosensitive, so painful.
when i saw the dress of myfriend there, and i had
published the previous nightthat dress...i don't want to see
anything else...i hope that alli've read is a lie because i
can't imagine how chiquisawould feel now if something
i read a magazine where themother of esteban, whom i don't
know, wished her that the deviltook her, that death took her,
so well, that's sad, so sad...
she must be regretful, becauseyou have to...there is not a
knife that cuts morethan the tongue.
i still call both of them totheir phones, thinking...
any of them will answer...
if i don't believe it,much less her family.
much less her family.
i am talking to herto her cellphone.
imagine her kids or her mom.
one can see the sadness of anextraordinary friend of someone
that will be missed very much.
and it's like has happened,adis, with blanca and all the
rest, they are still withoutbelieving what is
i think on one side is gettingto terms with it on one side,
being resigned on other side,and also the strong impact of
this airship in which theremains haven't been found make
us say, well it canbe a miracle, right?
love and hope, joined withthe myriad of speculations that
without a trace of respectregretfully have swam on the
net, and obviouslycatch the family...
of much hope and uncertainty.
yes, you can't play with thefeelings of the people, of the
family when they go throughsomething like this, i'm really
surprised, i didn't know aboutthe story of the mom of, of
esteban loaiza, just a week ago,mexico published really strong
declarations, that should nowweigh as lead over the shoulders
of the lady that, i'm sure, shenever imagined those words would
now have such a heavy echo.
what did she say?
what did she say, exactly?
i'm going to quote what thelady said, it's even difficult
for me to say it like thisbut she literally said, by
incriminating, what she felt asan unfair accusation against
esteban loaiza, she said, jennyrivera is going to hell...
well, la chicuela dares, shesays these words are poison and
regrettably, i say...
once you talk...
i say one thing, jennyrivera went forgiving.
she went in peace,she went happy.
that's what must matter to us.
thank you very much, it wasextraordinary to talk with la
chicuela and we keep havingthis coverage from mexico city.
thank you alan.
thank you alan, i wantedto make you a question and
reiterating, good morning adistoo, i wanted to make a question
and reiterating too, adis made acomment yesterday, and she did
it again today at the beginningof this live contact from
televisa, adis commented she sawthe beginning of the career of
jenny rivera there in mexico,and that she saw how they threw
full cans to her, howevershe stayed in the stage.
adis, what other memory do youhave of our diva de la banda
that you want to share with ourpeople, taking into account the
closeness between you two.
i want to, raul you giveme goose bumps, to have the
opportunity of sharing this. itwas precisely that day that i
met jenny rivera, thanks to ourfriend arturo rivera, who took
us to that dance day, to thathumble place, and jenny rivera
received those blows that wealso got as reporters, jenny
rivera didn't go down of thatstage, and at the end, the first
question that i as a journalistdid to jenny rivera was, jenny,
why didn't you retirefrom the stage?
jenny answered the following andi quote her, i tell you with my
heart, shaking forhearing these words.
she said: i'm not going fromhere because this audience will
end up loving me as i love it,and i, daughter, that's how she
talked, have received so manyblows that these are nothing.
jenny rivera would receive manymore blows in her life, but the
audience definitely learned torespect her and love her,
she recovered completely.
an incredible teaching,because in this career, us as
artists, sooner or later we havehad to receive blows and that
has made us big, because theonly thing that has done is to
improve ourselves and be able togrow more in this environment
that is so difficult.
tell me, alan.
look, just to tell you likeadis, i had the opportunity of
conduct an event the 15th ofseptember, the day of the yell,
here in el zocalo, last year,an incredible storm happens, i
don't know if you were there andjenny was the only singer that
was that afternoon and thatnight outside, in front of the
cannon, soaking wet, andenjoying with all her people
with all her songs.
that's it, that's what adis issaying and that's what will be
remembered for ever ofour loved jenny rivera.
gentleman, thankyou, thank you.
thank you very much forbeing here with us, christine.
snow bunny is here!
they told me that she wascalled like that here, right?
looking at her,you're right, see.
well, let me tell you, talkingabout christmas and all these
beautiful things, let me tellyou in denver, colorado, a race
has been done usingugly sweaters...
yes, the thing is in usa thechristmas is many times synonym
with ugly sweaters, tacky, withpeople putting, you know they
always have deer...
corny's more like it, right?
you can say corny, but let metell you all this has a
very good cause.
it happens that, um, the marinescorps have this little program
called toys for tots programwhich make this kind of people
do this race of 5 km and theycan also bring a toy, this is a
toy that will be donated forpeople with less...less...
for christmas, period, for thechildren that don't have a toy,
so they are charged to do thisrecollection, and everyone
brings their ugly sweaters,which in this season is not so
ugly, i mean if you wear it insummer you could say, what are
you doing dressed like this...
it's like a tradition in thiscountry, that generally are the
sweaters, pay attention, itsnot me who says it, it's the
tradition, it's the sweatersthat grandmother,
they are generally knit andthey have a christmas motive,
the red nosed deer...
the bell in the sweater...
they are not ugly,they are pretty...
i mean, there is one orother that are a little more
flamboyant, i mean they have agiant candy cane here and a
you know that i...
i propose that for christmasin "despierta america", that day
of christmas, you are invitedrodrigo, so that you come here
if you are around; we allbring our ridiculous
great, i have one.
i have one that is shameful.
but listen to this, if youdon't like corny sweaters and
all, what do you thinkabout nothing, then?
a race where they onlyuse bikinis and thongs.
how can you say thatamong so many men.
oh, but that ismy type of race!
you have for all tastes, men andwomen...
no, johnny look.
there was something there.
there was a girl,one girl, one.
i saw two.
this is what they did inboston, imagine the cold of
boston, all this for a goodcause, it all was to get funds
for high school students andthey run in bikini and thong in
icy temperatures,we had like 40!
when this happened, imagine!
i now ask you, guys in thestudio, what do you prefer, ugly
sweaters or knickers.
which one do youchoose, johnny?
looking at the images, ichoose the ugly sweater.
i also stay withthe ugly sweater.
i stay with theugly sweater, homie.
no, no, no, i agree, let'sget naked and run here...
no, no, no...
how do you say that?
and in plural,let's get naked!
it sounds like an arena,like a stadium, no...
it's for a good cause!
we're mates, weknow each other.
look, with coldeverything hides...
even the will togo out in the street.
i am against bikinis,one plays the fool!
when you feel comfortable withyour body, everything
is all right.
if you don't wear abikini, girls, go...
a greeting from mexico city inthese december times, the public
houses don't lag behind buttoday i'm going to take you to
one that's very special.
the date was in the childhospital federico gomez
of this city.
there we got together with manykids and their parents to take
them o their firstpublic house of the year.
it is the party of "aqui nadiese rinde" foundation, that see
to kids with cancer and theirfamilies who don't have the
money to pay the treatment.
to foment the family union,foment that the kids feel
together with their dads theirmoms, so every time we do
events, we invite all thefamily, that they see each
other, get together,that they live together.
as tradition dictates, weasked for shelter, after that we
continued with a good breakfastto continue with many typical
games of a mexican fair, likeeating the donuts without using
hands, softball and marbles,which were alex's favorites,
who is fighting and respondingreally well to his treatment.
i'm with alex, and alex is goingto tell us what he wants to be
when he grows up.
i want to be a voluntaryoncologist doctor.
voluntary because i want to helpchildren and i want to make a
time of their lives happy.
i want them, to talk to themabout how i didn't
surrender and i won againstcancer so that they don't
surrender to cancer either.
the voluntaries of thefoundation work strongly so that
the kids smile and forget theirillness, but it's also important
the support and strength formoms, who are the base for the
treatment of their children.
well i feel really happyof seeing my child running,
enjoying this party very much,and thank god, he's with us, god
saved him for us and i'm reallygrateful with foundation "aqui
nadie se rinde" because my sondidn't surrender and he's a
winner, here he is...
the actor of music comedymauricio martinez who also
suffered from cancer at somepoint of his life was present to
share this happiness inthis moment with the kids.
and to close with a spectacularending, the piñata
couldn't be missing.
full of sweets and fun.
in "aqui nadie se rinde" apartfrom fomenting family union of
the kids suffering cancer, it'smain mission is to get the
economic funds for thebone marrow transplants.
with go back to you, becausethere is much more in
thank you very much, todaychef pepin is with us to give us
that typical recipe in thekitchen, new year recipes, good
morning, how are you chef pepin?
how are you today?
oh, we're a little sad.
because we've had some days...
really strong, it's true.
but we have to pull through,we have to be strong.
tell us, pepin.
we going to keep it culinary.
we're going to keep it here,focus on the kitchen to change
what are we going to do today?
well in all latin america inchristmas, we do tamales, pies,
hallacas, all those things,and i'm not going to teach the
granny or that person at homethat knows
how to do pies to do pies.
i said, yum, what do i do?
well, i'm going to work withcorn, because we all eat corn,
and i'm going to make what iscalled "tamal en cazuela".
"tamal en cazuela".
when i say the word "tamal encazuela", i understand you are
going to put a tamalin a casserole.
this is a sauté.
the sauté has oil, garlic,onion, red bell pepper.
it smells delicious.
we're going to take the fatout of this with a little
of dry wine.
when you say take thefat, what do you mean?
as it is fatty, the wine wecook it until the alcohol goes,
and we have saltand pepper here.
that's it, as it should be.
and we also have tomato sauce.
8 bags of tomato sauce.
8 bags of tomato sauce.
this is like thosecasseroles...the little can,
exactly, yes, yes,yes, the traditional can.
i don't cook tomato muchbecause it has a tendency to
i didn't know that, i meani know nothing of cooking.
but you are learning!
little by little with you.
what else are yougoing to add to it?
we're going to do this "tamalen cazuela" with shrimp.
since we're doing it withshrimp, i'm doing a
i upped the ante.
because you know shrimphere has not much taste.
and at least it will give itthat peculiar seafood flavor.
and here we have the shrimpthat we're not going to put in.
what is that?
that little red thingyou have in your hand?
this is a "cachucha"chili pepper.
it is called like that.
okay, this chili pepper is frommy bush, that my friend the
super lazaro gave to me.
but you are going to haveto put some fertilizer in it
because it has 2 or 3, oryou have taken all of them?
they have took themlittle by little.
this kind of chili is not hot.
i mean, yes.
it has but it doesn't.
imagine in all the cities of theusa where there are hispanic
communities, the fresh corn isalready ground, i want to do it
so that it is done fromalaska to the patagonia.
so, i have frozen corn, 2lb. of frozen corn, i put it in
the processor and after this,with this sieve, i push it.
to take the juice out of it.
to take, to take, here as yousee here, to take that film,
that thing corn has.
that littleenvelope, so to speak.
that's right, what keeps corntogether and we add
4 cups of it.
okay, perfect, you know we'reon tv, so put that over there,
add that to it...
because i have italready cooked.
i have 4 cups of that crushedcorn, and 6 cups of water.
look at it here.
i have it like a jelly!
the magic of tv.
what we do is that we add thesauté, wow, wow.... voila!
and we're goingto make it red.
from white to red.
how do you know?
look at the consistency, thisreally takes more or less 45
minutes to become thick, cornand water, we cook it at a high
flame continuously stirring, wenow cook it, at a fire less...
less strong, lower and welet it become like jelly.
that automaticallybecomes like this, right?
oh, you are almost psychic.
then in the end...
in the end we add...
we add the shrimp, really wellrinsed so that it doesn't
the shrimp doesn'tneed to be cooked.
once the shrimp changescolor, set the dishes!
in this holiday season when weeat and drink in excess, surely
one accumulates extra fat in thewaist, but don't worry because
today we have claudia "hot mama"molina that will tell us how to
eliminate that fat faster.
we are all really sad by thedeath of jenny rivera, but we
have to raise the spirits, andi'm sure she would be just like
us, rememberingwith much happiness.
she had a good attitude and wehave to continue like that.
and we're going to go withgood attitude, why is it that us
men have so many problems withthis fat here,
the same as women.
because of genetics andhormones, but we have to burn it
let's start, i like this.
we're going to start tin thisposition, you flex and go, 1, 2,
but you are going to do it ata fast pace, this is a waist
exercise, but aerobic, and i dorecommend it that you do it with
a little weight, 5lb. , 3lb.
depending on your strength,apart from burning, we're toning
you do this 30 timeson each side...
i am in, like, 25.
you are multiplying.
tell me, what elseare we're going to do.
we're going to do another onei love, you are going to use the
you are going to be in thisposition, you are going to step
on it with your knee, thisleg will be straight...
we're going to go up...
to the side and down.
1, 2, come back.
1, 2, come back.
this is a somewhatpainful exercise.
because the elasticband produces resistance.
my hip is goingto be displaced.
1, 2, stay here a little minute,lets go, all the repetitions you
can, burn, burn and burn.
luckily for me we don'thave a minute, come here.
you are going to do that,of course in both sides.
yes, let me do oneon this side at least.
the next exercise.
okay, the next, come on.
we're going to put ahand in front of the other.
i like this.
and the hip goes where the handwhich is further in front is.
when it goes up,boom, it goes up.
now, let's go, let's go down.
she definitely looksbetter doing this than i do.
each time we go down with thehip to touch the floor, there is
a muscular tension in this zonethat is the one we have to burn.
pay attention to the clothes,don't use tight clothes that
shows your fat and careful withthe underwear also that also has
to be soft so that the skindoesn't hang and the fat
you know it already, the onlything you have to do is doing
this exercises and not usingtight underwear so that fat
claudia, hot mama thankyou, give me another kiss.
i love you so much, butyou make me suffer so much.
but you like it, you like it.
i like it...i like it,beat me but don't leave me.
first i want to thank you forallowing us to be in your house.
i thank you very much forbeing here in our house.
it is difficult that anartist opens her house.
thank you very much jenny forreceiving us here in the comfort
of your home where there must bemuch memories of many things,
especially where theborrowed jewels are born.
yes, here there aremany borrowed jewels.
i treasure much of them in thishouse, the most important are my
children, they are jewels godhas lent me, for which i work
very much, and for whom i dowhat i do with the intention of
making them pull through.
thinking about those jewels wasthat i thought about producing
the record borrowed jewels,which is what will be released
for sale soon.
now what songs, i understandthat you have a pop album and a
what songs did youinclude and why?
it's a totally banda album,because it is what i have
dominated a long time, the bandastyle, but each of these songs
gives the opportunityfor a pop song.
so instead of having manyversions, sometimes artist
release a song and then a popversion, or a mariachi version
of 3 or 4 songs.
i said, all give the opportunityand i set to produce the pop
album, because as i told you, ithad the opportunity for each of
these songs to belistened well in pop.
the topics, why?
the topics because these aretopics that i carry inside of me
for a long time.
i sold records in what in mexicois called tianguis, here in los
angeles are the bazaars, andbasically my parents put on a
musical stand, which stand was alittle table with, in that time
they were cassettes, and thenthey were cds, as the time
passed, and the songs i playedwere rocio durcal, lupita
dalezio, valeria lynch, rociojurado, isabel pantoja, the
years passed and thesestands became music stores.
stores where we solddiscs at that time.
then my father also had hisrecord house, and i got to know,
understanding more in the recordhouse, working with him in
sales, as a receptionist,working in the legal department,
i was an odd job woman, my dadmade me work in everything.
but every time those songsstayed in me when i worked in
those stands, i played thatmusic, so that i sold, to call
the attention, andthey stick on you.
i was a young woman, yearspassed and i started listening
to marisela, yuri, dulce and onesong of each was staying with me
and i went selecting some ofthese borrowed jewels of some of
my favorite artists, and somethat i could relate more with.
didn't you think aboutdoing a duet with them?
i'd love to, i'd love to, i'vetalked a little with yuri and it
would be an honor for me torecord something with her, i
admire her andlove her very much.
with marisela, i'd love to.
with rocio, i obviously can'tbut with her daughter sheila,
i'd love that too.
yes, i'm fascinated to dofusions and collaborations with
now that you talk about yourstart in music, when you started
to have contact with music, howhas the story of jenny
because jenny rivera got tothe usa in a very special and
yes, i shouldn'thave been here.
i shouldn't have been here.
my mom and dad crossed theborder from hermosillo, they
came to cross the border asimmigrants, illegally, and my
mom came pregnant with me.
she didn't know, but shecame pregnant with me.
so she comes to this country,to the state as so many other
mexican families, to lookfor a better future for their
children, they had two children,pedro and gustavo, and she and
my dad came here to fight tolook for something and the least
they wanted was another baby,and boom my mom was pregnant
with me, and she says she didn'twant to, she said that what i
wanted was make my otherchildren pull
though and i didn't want another
baby, you see many times womendrink tea or homemade remedies
or try to find a way or otherto not have the baby, but since
then, i think i was a fighter.
i said i'm not going to bethrown out, i'm not going to be
thrown out, and here i am.
here i am.
here i am, and now my mom, ididn't know about that story
until 2003 and she told meyou're always going to pull
though with everything, you area survivor of life, she told me
the story and that gave mestrength, it gave me strength
for every time i have a problem,a difficulty, i trust in those
words, that i am here from thestart, even though they didn't
want me and i stayed here.
and you were born here.
in long beach.
in los angeles, i was born inlos angeles, and then i moved,
my dad, they took us all thecrowd of children they had then,
and we fell in long beach,california and we were
you have always talked, allthe conflicts you have had, you
have shared with your audiencealso, but you have talked about
this courage you havesince you were a girl.
how was that childhood, how didyou grow up, what were your
first experiences with life?
i can tell you, mara, that mychildhood was one of the most
beautiful thingsthat i've lived.
apart from the stage i live now,i'm happy, i feel fulfilled,
whole, my childhood, i was avery happy, i was the only,
i was the first woman and for awhile, the only woman among 4
men, so there you can explainwhy i'm strong,
because my brothers wouldn't letme play as a girl.
i had to be strong i had toplay baseball, karate, marbles,
fights, they didn't let me havedolls, my mom bought them to me
wanting her girl to be a tendergirl, feminine, not a man.
i took the pigtails off, i hadmy hair loose, and i beat my
brothers at marbles, i playedcars, i loved baseball and they
made me strong, my dad alwaysdemanding much love to me.
my brothers had to love me, hadto adore me because i was the
queen of the house, so i think iwas growing like that, with much
love and care from my brothersand also from my father.
when i grow up, when i grow up,i was the ugly duckling with my
i don't know!
my brothers, i think i lookedugly because my brothers wanted
me to look like a little man,so i liked to get together with
pretty girls at school, i was areally good student, i studied
much, i had excellent grades,while they were the couplers,
boys liked them at school, andi was, you could say, the nerd,
the studying one.
i was always obeying.
even if it doesn't show, even ifit doesn't show,
i like study much.
did you have privationin your childhood?
yes, we had privation, but youdon't know you have privations
till you grow up and youconquer other things.
for me, the life my parents gaveus was really normal, it was
really normal not having alwaysmeat to eat, with beans, cheese,
tortillas, that made us happy.
what i can tell you there was aneconomical lack, but music was
music was never lacking, mymother says that when i was
born, we lived in aneighborhood, there were many
apartments, many people and shesaid i'm going to take my girl
to live there, and there is muchnoise, i want her to get used to
sleep with noise, and my mom putin a horn my crib, and through
that horn the music ofvicente fernandez played.
she said, while i slept, shesaid "so that she's used to the
noise and when the neighbormakes noise outside, my daughter
doesn't wake up.
so the music of vicente wasthe first thing i heard.
and like that, it went into myblood, vicente, lola beltran,
pedro infante, javier soliz,chayito valdez, and i grew with
what mom and dad listened,despite i was raised in the usa.
since, my first language wasspanish, after i went school i
studied english, but mexicanmusic was deep inside me.
so there might have been muchlacking, but music never.
and it's such a blessing tothink it was like that,
because i live of that.
my children live of that, ofthat teaching of my parents that
i didn't lose our culture, ourroots, our mexican pride and
obviously our mexican music too.
now, jenny, you say you wereugly, that you got together with
pretty girls, but your encounterwith love was really young.
yes, and because ofthe same reason i think.
i think that at 14-15 years oldwhen someone finally likes you,
well, it's easyto make a mistake.
so the first boyfriend i had wasthe father of my daughters, and
my first husband, it wasan 8 year relationship.
that relationshiplasted 8 years.
uh, you know that wesupposedly got married but the
innocent inexpert me neverregistered the documents, the
license, so when i went to getdivorced they told me you are
not married, you neverregistered the wedding act, so i
thought i wasmarried, but i wasn't.
you had your two first babies.
i had 3.
and later you find love againand you have other babies.
and after there was, afterthere was domestic violence for,
do you remember iwanted to study?
i, it was impossible for me thati was pregnant at my 15 and he
didn't want me to study anymore.
and that i wasn'tanything else in life.
and i was like, how, i, mygrades, and i'm going to be
doctor, nurse, teacher, lawyer,i'm going to be something.
that was what my mother said, mydad was always "you are going to
be a singer", no, i'm going tobe what my mommy says, so i
said, not because i'm pregnanti'll stop studying, and the
problems started because thestrong girl they taught me to be
wanted to get her way andwhen that happens with a male
chauvinist man,the beatings start.
beatings that ididn't receive calmly.
that was what iwanted to ask you.
how did the other one ended up?
well, yes, i have a very gooduppercut to the liver.
so there it startedbecause i wouldn't let him.
and that relationshiplasted for 8 years.
and you never sued, never...
in one occasion.
when finally we left each otherin 1992, it was because of that,
because it was the first time isued him, and he felt offended i
had sued him and that i hadn'tallowed him to touch me
physically, that hedamaged me physically.
at 23 years old this happened,in 1993 i started going out with
my friends, i realized whatdances were, i didn't go out, i
was locked in my house with him,for years, studying, being a
mom, and, because i finallygot my way of keep studying, i
graduated from high schoolwith honors, i had the best
qualifications with 8scholarships to go to the
university, so ikept on studying.
finally in 1992 i leave him forthat reason and in 1993 i go out
with my friends to a dance placehere in carlson, california, it
is called, and they gave me sometequilas, i didn't know what
tequila was either, that nighti discovered many things.
i had some tequilas and theydared me to go on the scene to
sing, i did it, i sang a song bychalino sanchez, "las lluvias de
enero" in the dance floor andthe people applauded
me very much.
and i liked it.
i liked that that ball ofdrunks had liked my music.
and then, my dad already had therecord house, i had access to
musicians, the studio,everything, and i obviously
worked in the record house, parttime, so i had access to all
this and i prepared my firstalbum as a surprise for my
father, who always wanted me tobe a singer, i showed him my
record the day of his birthdayand each year after that, he
wanted the same gift.
that happened for 6 years, i didan album for my dad, i wasn't
dedicated to my artistic career,because for me it wasn't one,
despite him compiling my musicalcatalogue without me realizing
it, he just asked me for a ifand i gave him another record.
um, in, then i was a bachelorin real estate, i had studied
company management, and isold houses here in the...
we saw that first part of theinterview in which jenny talks
about her beginnings, also aboutthat tormented past where she
was in a way...beaten, domesticviolence and now we're going to
see this second part, reallyjenny again, like few times
happens, opened her house, thiswas in 2011, and really she said
things that got to our house andshe makes us feel as always, as
she was, a great queen a greatdiva, the diva de la banda,
let's see this second part ofthe interview of mara patricia
castañeda to jenny rivera.
so you graduated and youstarted selling houses here in
i started selling houses, iloved it, i have always loved
chatting and i liked helpingpeople, so for me it was really
nice for a family of immigrantsor people that was fighting,
being able to give them thehouse of their first house.
i felt dreaming, i love, istill love the business of
so that's what i did when in1999 my music started being
played here in the area of losangeles, in the "que buena"
radio station, i startedlistening one day, see that i
was precisely taking someclients to see a house, when the
car gets hot, the carburetor,the radiator, i don't know what
it was, the thing is the cargets hot, i stopped in the
middle of the street withclients and they pushed the car!
and i, i was driving it, pullingit over, and i had the radio on
and i listen to my voice.
in the radio.
but first i said, where doesthat voice come from, it was me.
and i was really surprised thathours later, the girls talked
that they wanted that song.
we want to hear that song, theydidn't know who it was, they
didn't know the name, butthe interest started there.
and 2-3 weeks later theclubs in los angeles started
communicating with me to mydad's office to ask me to come
to sing to their places.
what is that?
"el parral" or "el farallon"want you to go to sing and they
pay you for presenting.
no, you just sing, theyare going to pay you.
ah, with that i can buy milk,cheese, tortilla and i fill a
bit my children's fridge.
then i was a single mother.
and you had your 3 children.
i had my 3 children.
and then you find love again.
i met juan, the father of mysecond two children that was my
i did married that one and themarriage was registered
i had more experience then.
i had 2 children with him, i hadjenicka and johnny that now has
14 years old, herand 10 years old him.
in 1995, in 1997 we got marriedand we also divorced in 2003.
it's like i last 8years with each one.
and there also was, therewere problems with him.
yes, there were problemswith my husband, again.
sorry, the cable unplugged.
that's it, okay.
with juan, with juan i wasmarried since 1997, and there
were, there were infidelities.
i have lived a little bitof everything, and we were
separated because of that, wetried again, from 1999 to 2003
and when my careerstarted...when i started to
dedicate to my artistic careerfrom 1999, it was working,
little by little it was workingand he didn't assimilate what
was happening to her woman, andthere were many problems that,
make believe i came to aninterview with you and in the
road there was a fight, aproblem, he didn't understand,
he didn't get the idea that hehad to support me and finally in
2003 i sued for divorce.
how, how does jennyrivera sees love now?
i have always been open tolove, despite i have done very
bad, i suffered from domesticviolence, the father of my
children abused of my children,my second husband cheated on me,
i paid the shall support, ialways said, i'm not afraid of
falling in love.
it's something really beautiful,besides, i love men, it's the
most beautiful that god has donein life, on the earth,
so i never closed myself,i never closed myself.
the thing is when i met esteban,i had lived much i worked much,
i was doing well, i was happywith my career, satisfied, and a
man comes who, who is alsosuccessful, who for 19 years
played in the major leagues inthe usa, professional baseball,
so he doesn't feel intimidatedwith who i am, how much i do,
how much work, how much successi have and that was what i
needed, and we are mature now,of the experiences i had in my
first and second marriage, youlearn better the relationship in
my third marriage now.
and i think thatit's the definitive.
do you want to havechildren with him.
he wants to, my husbandwants to make me a home run.
and it's just strikes,i said i don't want to!
no, poor thing, my beautifulhusband, he wants us to have a
baby but i have many projects,i'm really inquisitive, i have
always liked tv much, apart frommy musical career, i want to be
like oprah winfrey, it's whathas been like my real desire,
almost not a dream, i aspire, ilike to aspire, i aspire to be
the mexican oprah winfrey, butwithout wanting but wanting it i
became a singer and thoseprojects i have of radio and tv,
my line of clothing isabout to be released...
jewelry, my fragrances,my cosmetics, my hair
products...i'm a businesswoman,that's what i studied, company
management, so i think aboutthat, and all the love i want to
give to my 5 childrenand my granddaughter.
but esteban is so in love withmy granddaughter that calls i'm
"welo", he's "welo", i'm "wela",jeyla that is 2 years old, so
esteban wants to have a baby.
i'm there, i say if it's doneit's done and i don't have a
problem, i would like to, youknow, i'd like to make my
husband happy giving him thechance that a creature of the
two of us exists.
but we'll see, god always knowswhat he does, he knew my 5
children were going to be born,that jeyla my granddaughter was
going to be born too, so if itcomes, i don't know a jenicia,
or a little esteban,we'll receive him.
and apart from being singer,businesswoman, a voice of the
radio you are also mom and ahousewife and you like to cook
and take yourchildren to school.
how is that partof jenny's life?
that is what i enjoy the most.
i enjoy waking up early, mycoach comes, we exercise, i tell
him i have to cook, i like it,i'd like to have time to prepare
breakfast for my children everyday, take them to school myself,
those 15 minutes from here toschool are very important to me.
to talk with my children, clownaround, i try to be really
caring with them and being ableto make them some dinner to my
children and tell them i madeyou these enchiladas, these
roasted meat, these"frijoles caldudos".
what are the"frijoles caldudos"?
"frijoles caldudos" are asonorense dish, they are not
completely mashed or whole, theyare in between the two, and they
have "chili toreado" with cheeseand tortilla, flour or corn,
and those are the"caldudo beans".
what else do youprepare in your kitchen?
um, i am of treats, i likedoing golden tacos, i like doing
enchiladas, burritos, mole, thatkind of food i like to prepare
to my children.
they love it, that their mothermakes them, today i made them
some green beans with onion,tomato, serrano chili, scrambled
eggs, and i did an egg and hamsandwich to the boy too, so
before we say good bye, beforegoing to school, they go to my
room and they tell methank you for the food.
so that, for me is the best.
my career as a mother isthe most important thing.
that's why i make changes in mycareer because i've accomplished
much, my audience has made meaccomplish many things, so now i
want to focus a little bit moreon my children, on my family.
jenny, what are the momentsyou choose to talk with your
children, for example to talkwith your daughter that gave you
your granddaughter, how did youtalk to her about that topic,
with your son that now you wentto court, how, how did you talk
with them these problems you hadthat are now a beautiful thing
like your granddaughter.
yes, of course.
for example, with jackie theother day we talked about it,
remembering that in march 2009,i always wake up early, at 6 in
the morning or 7 i'm up, so itwas 8, 8:30 and mommy didn't
they went and knocked the doorto see why mom was asleep if mom
always wakes up early, and inthat occasion, jackie came in,
and i heard her and the big onepushed her and told her
"tell her, tell mom".
so i sat on the bed and she saidmommy i want to talk to you.
she said "mom, i'm going to havea baby", she had 19 years old
and i watch her and i say "okay,and what are you going to do?"
no, she told me"mom, i'm pregnant".
those were her words.
and i told her "whatare you going to do?"
and she said "i'mgoing to keep my baby".
then i thought "i'm goingto be a grandmother!"
"i'm going to be a grandmother!"
do you know why icouldn't nag her?
how could i?
i had become pregnantat 15 years old.
they waited, she had her firstchild at 20, and my oldest
daughter has 26 years old andshe has no babies yet, so i
wasn't there to nag her.
i was more, jacqueline wasmy rebel daughter, she was
rebellious, very independent,angry, so i thought "this girl
will help her change",it will help her mature.
this baby, we didn'tknow it was a girl.
so i thought, it's youropportunity of growing as a
woman, it's your chance to seelife differently and
and that was how we dealt withthe jayla stuff that was born
the 17th of november of the2009, and that has been a world
of happiness to me.
she's a sweet.
i don't want to say she's what ilove the most in life, because
my children get jealous, and itsimply is a really
it's a love that's mine, butit's not mine, it's hers.
so i'm the one who checks her,the one that disciplines too,
but it was, they werecomplicated moments, i was in
her birth labor, all the hourwhen she gave birth, and i told
her you are going to have an 8hour labor, this baby will be
born at 7 in the night, and youare going to breath 3 times per
contraction, and i was likethat with her, and breathe, and
breathe and she was born at 6:58that 17th of november, so mom
knew what she was talking about.
and the father of the girl?
the father of the girl, inthat moment, they have a good
relationship, they are not, theytried to be in a relationship
for a while, it didn't work,they don't think it's the
moment, but she is, part of theweek there and part of the
but my daughter is blessed inthat she has the father of her
daughter who is reallyresponsible, she takes care of
her, disciplines her, becauseit's a lot easier, i think it's
a lot healthier tohave a mom and dad.
and with your son,how was the talk?
oh my god, with mike, that'sanother one that killed me
because, i have lived manyscandals that are true, that
aren't true, my fault or not,whatever, but i can deal with it
because it's me and i don't letmy children see any of that.
my children i don't, theydon't see all that happens.
so, so that itdoesn't hurt them.
first so that it doesn't hurtthem, also so that it doesn't
affect them, and also so thatthey don't necessarily see
who their mom is.
so mom goes to sing and shecomes back, and i don't want to
any of what is said in themedia, good or bad,
but, when the michaelthing happened i suffered.
i suffered like a mother, a lot,because i remember that day 15th
of october of 2010...
you have such a memory.
yes, i remember importantdates, and that day i was
working in mexico, i had likea month and a week of being
married, and i wantedto talk to michael.
son, where are you?
i went out mom forcorona, to a party.
and who gave you permission?
he said "it was easy for meto come, mum" and i told him,
michael, when you do thosethings and you don't ask
permission to your parentsis when things happen.
i don't know if it had happenedor not, but the case is that
night, which was when he hadrelations, consensual, with a
girl that was younger than him,he was 19 and she was 16, 3
years, but in this countryshe has to be 18, so, so time
passed, i got there, he didn'ttell me a thing, i arrived, and
i took him to dinner a thursdayand i saw friends called him,
they called him ad they told himthings, i said "son, is it that
call very important?
why are you afraid?
you look frightened.
no mommy, everythingis all right.
that night we got home and hetold me mom, i made a mistake.
i had relations with a girl thati've been talking to, her mom
knows we have been talking, ihave been to her house, i mean
they all knew of thisrelationship but me, the mom
knew, the girl knew,my son knew, everyone.
the thing is he had relationswith her, and he said and the
mom realized this, andshe wants to talk to you.
okay, let her talk tome, there is no problem.
and i tell him, did you knowmichael she has to have certain
age so that you havesexual relations with her?
did you know?
you'll pay for your mistake.
because i, even if it hurts whatmight happen, you have to learn
the lessons in life.
ah, but until then, i won't letthem blame you for something
that is not true, and i feltwhat was going to happen,
finally her mom communicateswith my daughter, well this
happened, and the other thinghappened, and we're traumatized,
and my daughter said, "why areyou traumatized mrs.? because
your daughter has beencommunicating with my brother
and she is even happy with whathas happened, and i don't know
what you are traumatized about".
she said we can solve thisproblem if you release my
daughter as a singer.
and, well you help methat she is famous.
"oof, she said, knowing mymother, she's going to go mad".
knowing my mom, i don'tthink she's going to do it.
she would want my brother tolearn a lesson and you too".
so my daughter talks to me andtells me how this woman will
want to cover thisup with a record?
that's selling thebody of her daughter.
and i said, tell her i said no,that she does what she has to
do, but that iwon't be extorted.
and if they realize, if themedia realizes, i don't care
i'll pull through.
but as we hadn't agreed to theproposal of this woman, she did
it big time.
but i trusted, what i could dowas to trust god and justice.
as always, i said, my sonhas to pay for what he did.
he was foolish and he didn'ttake measures, knowing he
shouldn't have relations with agirl, but don't tell me he did
these other things, knowinghimself what we had lived with
the father of my daughters, mydaughters then with
their own dad.
so, thank god, those texts thathe saved were of much use in
court and in court, the judgelistened to the girl, that
according to him was very muchaffected for what has happened,
and he said, well in these textsyou say you are very happy,
joyous, didn't you write this?
well, then we don't believe whatyou're saying, that that boy did
all that to you.
and instead of giving him 3-4years in prison, they gave him
59 days of arresthere in our house.
from here he could do hisstudies, he could do his time,
in prison, and that washow we came out of that.
are you afraidof death, jenny?
i am afraid of death, mara,not because of me, um, for my
children, since i have been somany years, i was so many years
alone with them, they still livewith me, that close we are.
my daughter is 26 years old,and she lives with mommy.
she says i won't go from heremom, until i get married.
jackie that has her daughter, mygranddaughter also lives
michael who is 20 and is in theuniversity also lives with mom
because what we lived wasreally strong, so we feel happy
together united in thisnucleus, in this world of ours.
so, i am afraid that i could bemissing, what will happen with
i don't know.
or my mom, my dad.
i am not afraid for me.
i feel that at my 42 yearsi have lived so many things
already that i came out ofpoverty, i made my children pull
though, i lived all thedifficulties i've lived, but i
feel satisfied, i feelfulfilled, i feel happy.
i could die and that it says,here rest jenny rivera.
for her ovaries.
there she is.
and when you look at the mirror,like that big one you have
there, what is the reflectionyou see of yourself?
i find the reflection of animperfect woman but a woman that
has never given up, sincei was in my mother's womb.
i don't give up, and now i seein that reflection that woman in
which so many otherwoman see inspiration.
in which so many women, somany woman feel identified and
connected and sayshe is like us.
she, she is real.
that's what i see.
i see that woman that wantsto do changes, that wants to
mature, wants to be better, shewants to be a better example
because i didn't enter in thiscareer to be anyone's example, i
just lived my life, i livedmy life and all that happened
happened and without wanting iti became an example for them and
now i see that i say i want tobe a better woman in the same
way as i suffered with my firstmarriage, my second marriage,
all that has happened, and theni find the prince charming that
everyone talks about,they can also find him.
if i found him,you can find him.
jenny, of your new record"joyas prestadas" which is the
song that most memoriesbrings you back.
because all of them must havea special memory for you, but
maybe there is one that has a...
many, there are many, mara.
the songs of marisela that hasbeen my favorite artist, rocio
durcal that i listened since iwas a girl, the rocios, rocio
durcal, rocio jurado, isabelpantoja, enita nazario, olga
tañon...there is a song thatlucha villa recorded, which is
the borrowed jewel composed byjuan gabriel, and it was sang by
lucha villa and i can't imaginesinging that song live because
my parents are passing through adivorce, and that song says,
"so now i am worth nothing toyou after i gave you my life
in body and soul"
♪ you leave me and you go youdon't care about me anymore .
after i gave you all my life.
and she tells him "i knowshe's younger and she's pretty
and you'll have her love now",it says, "but don't be stupid,
she won't love you as i do.
she wants you for your money,don't believe that
it's for love".
so that's somethingthat happens to us!
when are we're going to listento you jenny, are you going to
tour with "joyas prestadas"?
yes, of course.
the record will be released the22nd of november, it comes with
the songs "basta ya" from olgatañon, from anita nazario "a que
no le cuentas", "a como tumujer" by rocio durcal,
"¿a cambio de que?"
by maricela, "me gusta morir"by dulce, "asi fue" by isabel
pantoja and "resulta...
"detrás de mi ventana"?
"detrás de miventana" by yuri.
oh my god they're so many songs.
it will be released this 22nd ofnovember, and well i think as
soon as it is released i'm goingto start singing it, 3 or 4 live
presentations, so that youlisten to them, to see
what you think.
when do you finishworking this year, jenny?
i finish my work in the middleof december and the last half of
december i spend buying gifts,making the christmas buying,
decorating the house, beingwith my children, my mom, my
brothers, meaning, what i can'tdo all year, i like to do from
the middle of december onwards.
jenny, what will you tell theaudience of "joyas prestadas".
to my audience of "joyasprestadas", i promise you are
going to like it, you are goingto love it, um, i did it with
much passion, much love,remembering, most of the songs
the times when i worked behindthe counter in the booths,
selling music, and what ablessing that the music i
listened to i can record now andi can offer it to all of you.
thank you for the incrediblesupport you have given me, for
being with us in the good andbad moments, for loving me,
supporting me, forgiving meand being with me always.
my children and i thankyou with all our hearts.
do you want toadd anything else?
thank you for your time, ithank you for being here, your
house in los angeles,thank you all.
alan tacher, we listenperfectly to you and we see you,
friend, thank you, this is tosay good bye with this special
transmission from mexico, withall we did, you know it, you
talked about it, the life jennyrivera lived of ups and down,
but she was a complete woman,and as she said, with ovaries.
and that is how we're going toremember, with strength, spirit
and of course what she wantsis that the show must go on...
we're going to continue withthis show, go on jenny, and all
of those that arenot with us anymore.