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Al Punto con Jorge Ramos - 1 de agosto, 2021

Los casos de COVID-19 aumentan en personas que no han sido vacunadas. Cuatro agentes de la policía dan testimonio de los peligros que corrieron al defender el capitolio de los Estados Unidos.
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covid case increased. will the new vaccine mandateshelp? we speak with javier becerra.more police officers talk about what happened during the capitalattack in january. one of those men is an immigrantfrom the dominican republic. he tells us why you needed totell his story. >> well, that day, perhaps i hadthe chance to lose my life. >> massive trials in cuba afterdetentions last week. we speak with a journalist whocovers the topic. former covert men beto o'rourketakes to the street with activists to stop newrestrictive voting measures and place pressure on a newelectoral reform. republicans say that electoralfraud needs to be stopped and elections need to be safer.>> and leonal garcia talks about his new project as a soloartist. he tells us how he experimentedwith different genres during the pandemic.we begin now. ♪>> lets get to the point with jorge ramos.♪ >> lets get to the point, alpunto. satcha: jorge ramos has the dayoff. we begin now with the raceagainst the coronavirus and the pandemic of the nonvaccinated.the biden administration announces new measures againstthe pandemic that affect millions of americans.all federal employees and contractors must be vaccinatedor submit weekly covert tests. >> last month, studies showedthat over 99% of covid-19 deaths have been among theunvaccinated. 99%.this is an american tragedy. people are dying and will diewho dont have to . >> this happens when a newinternal memorandum from the cdc obtained by the washington postsays that the delta variant causes worse symptoms and canspread more easily than a cold. this week i spoke with javierbecerra, the secretary of health and human services.it is a pleasure to have you on. >> thank you, satcha,satcha: key want to know why the biden administration is askingfederal employees to get vaccinated.>> because it is time for all of us to take necessary measures toprotect our loved ones, our work colleagues, our children, ourgrandparents, and there is no time to lose.this is a moment the president believes that we can now makesure that anyone who has contact with a federal employee shouldbe protected. work colleagues also deservethat same protection. that is why he is asking thateverybody who worked for the federal government take thenecessary measures to protect everyone including themselves.satcha: who would be forced to get vaccinated?would there be exceptions? >> forced in a sense that it isa community obligation to protect others, but what thepresident is doing is asking.is asking them to take the necessary measures if they havenot been backed in. they will have to use a facemask. if they have been vaccinated,there are in a better position. they wont have to always wear aface mask. but within a building what he isasking is that all of us use a face mask to protect everyone.satcha: what other norms should these people follow who do notget vaccinated and are employees of the federal government?>> what is very clear is that to protect ourselves, we need totake necessary measures. if one does not want to getvaccinated, please wear a face mask.you will have to practice social distancing.you will have to take those safety measures.if one has been vaccinated, those precautions are mostly toprotect those who are not vaccinated.but this is a moment to say that two out of thre americans aregetting vaccinated but there are still people who could suffer ifwe are not careful. satcha: president biden asksstates and local areas to pay people $100 to get vaccinatedstarting now. is this administration losingground in the battle against the pandemic?sec. becerra: what were seeing is that there are more peoplegetting vaccinated now. we are accomplishing more but weneed to see mroe people who havent been vaccinated continueto do so, and that is why the president is taking thesemeasures. one important measure is alsoto incentivize workers to offer their eimployees time offto get vaccinated. i know that our community has alot of people work a lot of hours and sometimes it isdifficult to leave that job and lose that income.satcha: for some people who are refusing to get vaccinated, oneincentive was not having to use a face mask inside.we see now that the cdc is asking people to wear face masksin areas with high contagion rates.does that mean that the vaccines are not as effective and if so,why are people being asked to where face masks in schools?even among those who are vaccinated.sec. becerra: 99% of people who are dying are people who are notvaccinated. does the vaccine work?of course it does. is it effective?of course it is. this is the problem.there are many people who are still not vaccinated.if one has been vaccinated, you have the security to know thatit works well. we do know that there are somecases where some vaccinated people have transmitted covidand if they are in contact with someone who has not beenvaccinated, then there is a risk of spreading covid.so because there are people who havent been vaccinated, we allneed to take measures to protect everyone.satcha: according to an axios poll, most people who haventbeen vaccinated are caucasian. it looks like latinos andafrican-americans might be easier to convince.lets hear what a latino patient who wasnt vaccinated but is nowdealing with covid-19 says. he says he regrets not beingvaccinated. >> i didnt think the vaccinewas effective. >> what was your source?>> you watch the news, it is not effective, that you could getside effects. >> we are seeing in the last fewweeks that given the delta variant of covid-19, latinos arebeing immunized at a greater rate.>> that is what we are seeing. what we know about our latinocommunity is that we work hard. sometimes you work very late.many people dont want to lose work because they will not havethat income so we have to make the vaccine available toeveryone easily and that is what we are trying to do.we know that if latinos know they have access and can getvaccinated, they wont lose work, they wont lose income,that is very important and that is what we want to do.we want to do what is possible to help people get vaccinatedwithout losing work time, money, because it is safer to bevaccinated and protect your family.satcha: we are talking about what is going on not just interms of coronavirus but also immigration on the border.the biden administration was considering suspending title 42on july 31, but given the recent coronavirus numbers, that mightbe delayed. what can you tell us about that?sec. becerra: we have the obligation to protect theamerican people. we have to take measures to doso. weve already spoken about howwe need to see people get vaccinated and we need to makesure that the help of the people is a priority for thegovernment. at this moment, what we can sayis that we need to take whatever measures possible to protectpeople here in the united states but i want to clear up that 42allows the administration accelerated expulsion ofmigrants to protect the general population.xavier becerra, thanks for joining us.after our interview, i wanted to clear up a point, to make itclear. president biden is not forcingfederal employees to get vaccinated.he is asking and recommending that they do so, or they willhave to submit to covicdd tests. when we return, testimony fromcapitol police officers after the riots.one of these officers is here with us.s also, protests continue in♪ satcha: we heard testimony thisweek during the first day of testimonies looking into thecapitol attacks. we heard from officers who wereon the front lines when trump supporters entered the capitoltrying to prevent congress from certifying the 2020 elections.one of those officers is with us.thank you for joining us on "al punto.">> thank you. satcha: in your testimony, yousaid you thought that you would die on january 6.tell us what youve experienced and how were you hurt?>> well, that day, there were several occasions when i perhapsmight have lost my life at several points.one of those moments was when ifell while defending theentrance to the capital. i tried helping two metropolitanpolice officers and i slipped on two police badges.i tried to help the one that was closest to me.grabbed him by the neck, and i pulled into the police line.when i tried helping the second officer, i slipped and i fell.when i fell, they began to grab me by the uniform.they grabbed my shield but i was using to defend myself.at that moment, i began to kick, hit the people who were grabbingme. while yelling out to the policeofficers behind me. but the police officer behind mecouldnt hear me because i had a gas mask on and he was alsodefending himself. satcha: you said that you aremore scared during these hours in the capitol then during the545 days you served in iraq. why?>> one difference is that any rack -- in iraq, at least, icouldnt seek refuge in a bunker.in iraq, there wasnt as much agression,on january 6, the attacks came one after the other.uit w -- it was nonstop, and we didnt have any backup.not much backup. it was just the police officersand then the metro police and then several hours later, otherpolice agencies. but at that moment, especiallyin the tunnel, there were o fivenly 20 hours or 30 officersfighting for hours. satcha: you came to this countryin 1992 from the dominican republic.do you think that because you are the tino, you suffered moreaggressions? what were these people saying toyou? >> at that moment i didnt thinki was being attacked racially but at some moments they weresaying you arent even an american.they obviously couldnt see me very well because i was wearinga face mask. but they still said that to me.all i was hearing them say was president trump sent us and weare not going to listen to you. we are here because we are goingto stop the steal, according to them.satcha: despite the testimony you gave to the house ofrepresentatives and what you experienced afterwards, thereare people who still dont believe.what would you say to them? >> dont believe the formerpresident. what happened there was not a tour, not a concert. despite the fact that six monthshave passed, im still recovering from the hugs andkisses as he refers to them, that people were giving us.last week i found out, my doctor told me, that one of my injuriesin my shoulder hasnt healed it has been over six months andim going to need surgery on my right arm.i could have a recovery time of eight months to one year,potentially. satcha: you say that on thatday, you put the country and the constitution before your wifeand nine-year-old child and that despite all this, you willcontinue serving as a police officer.why? >> we took an oath to protectthe constitution, the country, democracy.also, our fellow police officers.my intention is to give my son a better future.that is why i do what i do. satcha: thank you for speakingwith us from washington, d.c. we will follow closely what willhappen in this investigation into the events of january 6.when we return, the cuban government response to protests.we speak with a journalist there.and activists walk long distances roto con jorge ramos>> we hear the cries of freedom come from the island.>> on friday come president biden welcomed cuban-americanleaders to the white house. politicians, activists, andperformers got together to talk about the recent protestsagainst the cuban regime. biden announced new sanctions.many people have criticized the biden administration response,saying that he is ignoring protesters who are fighting forfreedom. one of these people was one ofthe performing on the song. she was jailed for a time andnow is under house arrest. thank you for being here withus. my and thanks for theinvitation. i was accused and arrested forfour days. on july 16, i will let go.i have been any friends has them.-- friends house since then. i am watched 24 hour per day.what were those four days like jails?i read today? -- how we treated?>> i wasnt physically tortured. they are very careful people whohave low visibility. what i noticed was the storiesthat i heard from women who have spent time with in the same cellfor the last few days. these women who were arrested atthese protests. these cells were very hot atthat condition. there were mosquitoes, they werepoorly ventilated, dark. detainees were coming in and outwithout being tested for covid-19.this was a danger for all of us who were inside.i was interrogated twice today. for over an hour each time.satcha: were you afraid at any time?>> yes, especially because they knew that they could do whateverthey wanted to give in. we have heard stories, forinstance, that they will send detainees to meet up members ofthe opposition, but i never looked down, i always look atthem in their eyes. i did not want them to thinkthat i was afraid. they were trying to get me togive in. they even said that a newspaperhad denied that i worked for them.that, of course, was a lie. they were trying to make me feelinferior and i did not give them the pleasure at any moment.>> what do they want to know i your drums to work.-- about your journalistic work? >> i recorded the protests andthey said that was a crime. but then during theinterrogation, they tried to move the conversation to you.for instance, how much did i charge as an independentjournalist. and i refused to answer thatbecause we know that in cuba, that would lead to anotheraccusation of being a mercenary. i wasnt about to incriminatemyself. satcha: what can you tell usabout the protests, and also about the repression from theregime in the last few days and what is going on with the peoplewho have been disappeared? >> well, theyve tried tomanipulate all of this information.they are saying that there is no police repression, but i thinkthe videos speak for themselves. the videos of police officersand cuban authorities who, during the protests, savagelybeat people. i saw people in the cells,women, including minors who had bruises by strong policeviolence. i covered the protests in frontof the capitol building. they were walking on bravoavenue past the spanish embassy and i saw peaceful protesterswho were trying to escape from officers, and i saw policeofficers who were armed, paramilitary officers whoarrived by bus. they arrived with sticks.they came to her peaceful protesters.satcha: you are under house arrest awaiting trial.when would this happen, and what do you expect from this possibletrial? >> the investigations could lastsix months or more. and the trial could deprive meof liberty between three months and three years depending on theoutcome. satcha: thank you for joiningus. camilla is a journalist for thenewspaper abc. thank you.>> thank you. satcha: activists marched inopposition to♪ satcha: for several days thisweek, activists including beto o'rourke marched for close to 30miles in texas sporting a reform in voting.they ended up in austin to bring attention to be for the peopleact that would expand voting options for eligible voters.former congressman beto o'rourke is here to explain why he thinksthat is so important. thank you for joining us.>> thank you for the opportunity to be satcha: here with you.tell us first why you conducted this march where you walk closeto 30 miles in texas to demand the right to vote.>> what we were trying to do is ensure a right to vote foreveryone in texas and in this country.the state of texas is the hardest to vote in compared toany other state. it is harder for low incomepeople and people who live in places like houston, austin, anddallas, and also it is harder for latinos andafrican-americans who live in texas.if we want to improve the situation, i think we need tomarch so that people who are in state government as well asfederal government can listen to the people that they represent.they can change the laws to make it easier to vote in the future.satcha: state republicans have pronounced governor greg abbottwant to restrict voting rights for texans.what worries you most about what impact these restrictions mayhave in the next elections? beto: if we want to change thelaws or the policies that we have in our state, we need morepeople to vote. for instance, if we want toraise the minimum wage in texas, to $7.25 per hour, we need morepeople voting. in the elections that we had in2020, there were close to 7 million people eligible to votewhy did --who did not vote. satcha: texas is not the onlystatethat has restrictive voting measures being consideredd.how is this battle being fought? beto: in texas, they are tryingto change the election laws as well as in georgia, laura, iowa,other states. we need federal action and abill called the "the people act."if we could approve that in the senate and with presidentbidens signature, we can open up the elections to millions ofpeople who want to vote who live in states like texas or georgiawhere they no longer can. satcha: it also includes a pathfor legalization for 11 million undocumented people.beto: yes, in addition to the important part of our democracy,we also want the almost 11 million people who are hereworking and contributing to the success of our countryespecially in texas, we want them to be able to remain in alegal way and if they want to obtain citizenship, they canparticipate in a program to achieve that.satcha: are you considering running for governorship oftexas? beto: right now, i am focused onthe fight for the right to vote. satcha: thank you for speakingwith us this morning. beto: thank you.satcha: not everyone supports the act.republicans say that the measures being approved by manystates actually make elections safer and make electoral fraudharder. we welcome a conservativeanalyst. thank you for being with us.several months have passed since the presidential elections and,to date, there has been no evidence of electoral fraud.why are republicans using this theory to limit voting bycitizens? >> i think it is important toestablish a few points. lets say that there wasnt anykind of fraud. we all agree there was no fraud.at the end of the day, making sure that our elections have therequirements and necessary rules to make sure that regardless ofwho is running, that we always can be certain that in ourelectoral system, these new proposal that we are seeing intexas are about making sure that we are following rules and thatthese rules have been established so that, at the endof the day, when we look at the results, democrats, republicans,independence, -- independents, can be certain that theelections are just. satcha: the center for justicesays that 18 states have approved 30 new laws that seekto limit voting access. if that is not the intention, ifthe intention is to have more transparency, then why are weseeing so many democrats and independents who say that theonly thing being accomplished is to damage the electorate?>> ill be honest, i dont understand, i dont know theanswer. when i hear democrats and otherindividuals say that the laws go against latinos or againstafrican-american votes, sometimes they say these lawsare even racist. i dont understand these pointsof view. in texas, the laws simply createrequirements. for instance, we are talkingabout identification. what citizen doesnt have id?or doesnt have the opportunity to go get one?in texas, you can use a drivers license, you can use anaturalization certificate. could even be a license to beararms. it could be a passport that hasa picture in your name. thats enough to vote.to have new laws is not mean we are denying access.if we have transparency, we can be sure that every citizen isvoting. im satcha: glad we are talkingabout the state of texas specifically because we knowthat these two laws will also limit the number of hours tovote, eliminating voting by car and you would also need aspecial certification in order to vote by mail, among othermeasures. this would also affect harriscounty which we know is majority latino.the republican party, are they not afraid that it will alsoaffect its voters, people who support them?>> i dont think so. in harris county, voting by caris something that we only saw during the pandemic.this is not something historic in texas.it was simply something that was done during the pandemic.the truth is that around the country and in places liketexas, people can vote in advance seven days, sometimeseven 14 days before the election.often between mondays and sundays, in the mornings and inthe afternoons. yes, they want to reduce thosehours that people can vote on sundays, and i think we can talkabout that and that is not the best part of that law, butpeople still have maybe 14 days. you can also vote absentee.we just need to make sure that the number on the id matches theone on the ballot. satcha: when we return, leonel garcia, who was part of the duo sin bandera, presentsa pleasure to talk to people here in los angeles.we will talk about that. we will talk about your trip tolos angeles. you are working on new projects.you launched 45 rpm. we see this creativity.when you say it is because of the time you spend with yourselfduring the pandemic? >> i never stopped working, inever stopped making records. i finished one album and irecord another one almost automatically.im very curious, there is a lot of things i want to do.but being locked up does force you to spend more time in thestudio. we havent been able to performfor about a year and a half, so everything its focus onrecording. and the solo part has combinedwith some, weve been together for 20 years now as a group.i feel like time has passed very quickly but it has also beenincredible and we want to celebrate.satcha: lets concentrate now on 45 rpm.it has a special significance for you and we have theopportunity to explore different genres.what does this production represent for you at this pointin your life? 45 years.>> yes, thats why the album is called 45 rpm, what the singleswere called, single that only had one song per side that ourgrandparents and even our parents used to play.i like that nostalgic reference and how the industry haschanged, too. weve gone back to singles, likewhen air parents and grandparents heard music.we are not necessarily hearing entire albums.the industry has changed a lot. all of these changes changed theway that music is made and these 45 years made me look back andreview what my career has been. my effort has been to make music. where have i been, whoinfluences me, what do i like? satcha: youve also said thatthis production is like a bridge between the past and the future,but i ask you, where is the present?>> yes, i think the present is that conjunction.right where the past and the future meet in your mind, inyour actions. that is the present.and its happening all the time. its beautiful to be able toexperience it with my family. one of the few, or perhaps, theonly positive thing to come from this pandemic, many people havesaid so, is the time weve been able to spend at home with ourfamilies. sometimes we discover thingsthat we might not have discovered otherwise.we spend so many hours, so many days consecutive with peoplethat we love, it makes you feel, it makes it very obvious whereyour values are, where your priorities lie.and that changes the way you work.it changes the way you think about life.satcha: hopefully you will also have the opportunity to play inperson with your fans very soon. we appreciate that you are withus on al punto. we wish you a lot of successwith your album 45 rpm. >> thank you very much.we will see you soon with more music.satcha: many performers have talked about plastic surgery.cesar munoz brings us his thoughts in a song.interviews -- our videos and interviews online.followers also on facebook, instagram and twitter.until next